Kirkland vs Molina: Predictions

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  1. Free Ike

    Free Ike WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Afraid not.The only bs is your lack of thinking.Is there a rule that the ref has x amount of seconds to da a fighter.The answer is no.da a fighter is what I meant
     
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    DQ or not, Kirkland is a scrub.
     
  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Yeah. Even a guy like Austin Trout would light up Kirkland.
     
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    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Where's Neil at? He was saying not too long ago that Kirkland would beat Floyd at 154.

    I don't think he really believed that, but just sayin.......

    Floyd would rape Kirkland inside of 5.

    Martinez would hospitalize him inside of 3.
     
  5. Neil

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    martinez would KO kirkland in 1. i still got kirkland over mayweather jr.
     
  6. Xplosive

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    Pass me that shit. Its obviously strong as hell.

    Floyd would see Kirkland's slow motion punches coming from 2 light years away. And his wouldn't be missing him with ANY shots.
     
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    mayweather jr fights nothing like molina. wouldnt tie kirkland up the same way. isnt as big or physically strong. chin not as good. its a different fight with a different outcome.
     
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    Yeah, Mayweather Jr is about a billion times better than Molina. He would whip Kirkland like a rented donkey.
     
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    he fears kirkland and knows he cant win.
     
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    LOL, come on. Kirkland is so shitty that Floyd would get criticized if he even thought about fighting him. Expect Chavez Jr - Kirkland soon.
     
  11. Neil

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    the cold war wont end for that matchup. alvarez-kirkland maybe.
     
  12. Xplosive

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    Ginger KO's Kirkland.
     
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    molina is a more difficult foe than alvarez style wise. im not convinced alvarez beats kirkland for sure.
     
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    Molina should be banned from TV, but that was the wrong call. As Trplsec would say, period.
     
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    I am surprised at John Schorle, I've seen him give good performances before.

    A guy like Hacine Cherifi would have beaten Kirkland stupid.
     
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    Ugly, awful fight. Madness at the end. Kirkland got lucky - he was losing that fight.
     
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    The only BS is your lack of understanding of what a DQ means

    A count is administered to a fighter in order to give him a set amount of seconds to recuperate and illustrate that he can or can not continue to fight after being down, or in the case of a standing 8, badly hurt but upright.

    A Disqualification is the end of a fight. If the event that was the cause for a disqualification is not ruled upon immediately and an aborted count is resumed, the referee is in effect deciding in the moment that he will not be issuing the disqualification and is instead continuing the count as if no offense has taken place.

    Any sensible claim to the DQ was null and void as soon as the official shooed the cornerman out of the ring and resumed his count. He was, in essence, warning the guy to get out OR ELSE

    Only after finishing the count and ruling the round completed did he suddenly backtrack and call a DQ.

    If you can not see the problem with this, you are retarded.
     
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    The ref his job perfectly. He was administering a count. The cornerman came in. He had to worry about Kirkland who was ready to pounce. YOU shouldn't call me retarded when you don't know how to think. I understand your effeminate reaction because it was disappointing, but the ref did what he had to do. In fact, I think the commission probably told him to enforce the rule. EVERYONE KNOWS THE RULES. Had his corner not stepped into the ring, we would be talking about what a boring Hatton/Duran/Ruiz clone Molina is and what a bum Kirkland is. If I were Molina, I'd fire my cornerman.

    He , and he alone, lost his fighter the fight. You want the ref to ignore the rules because your little feelings were hurt. Unless that is a commission rule, that not a single pube in your muff can't be misplaced, then you are wrong. There is no rule the ref has to dq people right away. I have seen refs give a fighter a last chance and the fighter tells him to fuck himself and then the ref dq's him.
     
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    He continued the count, you mongoloid faggot
     
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    Yeah. Don't forget the personal insult. Good. That makes your argument stronger."
     
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    If the offense had happened in round 1, and the ref DQ'd him for it in round 11, would that be OK, too? If not, then what happened in this instance shouldn't be OK either.
     
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    Basically yeah, if he was going to DQ it had to have been right there and then, but he didn't, he continued the count, in his mind it was a minor infraction and the fight was still on.

    Then oh look a minute later he either got an earpiece instruction or a quiet whisper to use that as an excuse to stop the fight.

    Cue Kellerman and his ball licking extraganza, "Oh James, James, Oh James! You would have stopped him anyway James! I know you would! Slurp slurp!".
     
  23. Free Ike

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    No, you stupid pedophile. I would think it is reasonable to allow the ref to have the rest period to make the decision which he did. Now go fuck a 9 year, you sack of shit.Did the ref wait 10 rounds, you fucking idiot? No, I would think it would be shady once the next round begins. The ref is well within his rights to dq before the next round. Learn the rules of the sport you follow and stop lusting after children.
     
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    I think the ref did not want to do it. I think the commission made him. Either way, he did nothing wrong and anyone who thinks he did does not know the rules of boxing. If he had waited until the middle of the last round then I could see the objections. I think he counted and the commissioner told him that he had to dq him.
     
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    Show me a rule that says the ref cannot continue a count or the dq doesn't count. SHOW ME. I dare you to show me. HERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. If a corner man enters a corner before the official end of the round, it is a disqualification. That is a matter of fact so unless you show me a rule that the ref has to immediately disqualify the fighter or it is null.............shut the fuck up and listen to your master, boy.
     
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    Let me put it like this, do you think if the situation had been reversed, and it was Kirkland's corner who entered the ring, that Kirkland would have been DQ'd?
     
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    Yes, absolutely. This conspiracy bullshit makes no sense. The conspiracy only worked because Molina's corner fucked up. There was absolutely nothing shady about that stoppage. Nothing. You guys need to learn how to reason. Clearly, they did what they could by buying the one judge. The fault is with Molina's corner, 100%
     
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    What's with the quotation mark, you jackass?

    Stay out of this, Rainman
     
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    You really are stupid. If the ref is going to Disqualify one of the participants, he is to do so at the moment the offense takes place. This is COMMON SENSE.

    By continuing to count, the official is signaling the bout will continue.

    I shouldn't have to show you anything. It is a matter of logic. I can't help it if you are so far up your own ass that you can't possibly believe that your initial thoughts on an event may actually be wrong.

    If I kick you in the balls in round 5 and the official yells "don't do that!" and then allows the fight to continue. He can't suddenly just step in during round 8 and say "you're disqualified! you kicked him in the balls 3 rounds ago"

    You are completely fucking off-base.
     
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    You don't have to be angry because you are wrong. Show me the rule that says the ref has a certain amount of seconds. No bullshit. Show me the rule that proves you point, not insults , not ad hominum attacks, show me the fucking rule. Pulling the common sense card shows you don't have shit. You are 100% wrong.Btw, I fucking hate when people use the word logic. This isn't mathematics. The word you wanted to use is "reason." IMO, the delay was reasonable. So what he kept counting, you objection makes no sense. maybe the ref was focused on the count and then realized wait....he has to be disqualified. YOU ACT AS IF A FUCKING CENTURY WENT BY. It was less than 60 seconds. Try to make a reasonable point for once.Your analogy is as shitty as your ability to reason. The ref didn't wait a round, or two rounds, he made the decision during the rest period the new round hadn't started. YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT ESTROGEN.
     
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