Dark Trade, Lost in Boxing

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  1. Slice N Dice

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    What page are you on Steve?
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    I started reading this again last night :lol:
     
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    That's pretty harsh, LOK. :blackcloud:
     
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    I'm sorry Noble, i didn't mean it
     
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    I used to spend hours reading those books on the newstand in Easons in Dublin, but once the internet got real, especially youtube, I regard boxing books, with a few exceptions, as a very very poor second. As I say, there are exceptions- Kevin Mitchell's "War Baby...." is worth a look, as is Bartley Gormans book, but the 10 minute vid of Gorman on youtube is far better than his book. I got Holyfields "Becoming Holyfield"- its even signed, but its a very average read- the signature and the scripture make it a nice touch.
     
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    Thanks LOK. The sun is back out again for me. :Thumbs:
     
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    I would recommend "Dark Trade" to people who don't even follow Boxing. It's just a good read, from front to back.
     
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  8. Rich ´Money´ Mustard

    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    Top 5 boxing books (IMO):

    'Dark Trade'
    'War, Baby'
    'McIlvanney On Boxing'
    'Serenity: A Boxing Memoir'
    'Four Kings: Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran and the Last Great Era of Boxing'
     
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    Read McIlvanney on Boxing and Four Kings, enjoyed both. In fact, the Four Kings had a few chunks I wanted to post on here. Going to have to skim it again soon.

    The Sweet Science is awesome too if you haven't already read it.
     
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    UPDATE

    I worked until midnight last night and started again at 9 this morning. Leaving early today and I'm going to tuck in.
     
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    Rich ´Money´ Mustard DIE!

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    'Dark Trade' focusses on a specific period in boxing: 1995-1996, which was arguably one of the most important being as the names Tyson, Jones Jr, De la Hoya, Trinidad, Benn, McClellan, Hamed were all up there in the upper-echelons in the same way that almost nobody is today.
    Just by that alone, illustrates what a low-level boxing is at today.

    It's a great read....I feel you should start tonight. :lol:
     
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    I bought David Remnick's 'KING OF THE WORLD' - Muhammad Ali and the Rise of an American Hero. Anybody read this?
     
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    I've been meaning to read Four Kings for a while now, definitely my next purchase
     
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    Personally I'd never buy an Ali book. Nothing against the guy it's just the story has been told a billion times already, everyone knows whats happened from every perspective. It's not like they're going to uncover anything new.
     
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    Same. Ali was fascinating when I fell in love with boxing. Over him now.
     
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    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

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    So steve, have you started to read 'dark trade' yet? :lol:
     
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    Man, the bloody federal budget dropped today and I'm working late again. So frustrating. The book is sitting on my desk, Holyfield's mug just staring at me asking to be read.
     
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    Could you get someone to read it to you? :Lok:
     
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    Can you?
     
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    Jimmy can read it to you and then you can tell me what Jimmy said
     
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    are you a butkus fan, cdogg?
     
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    Exactly.
    However, the only book I read which really upset the Ali worshippers was 'Ghosts Of Manilla' by Mark Kram - who got a lot of flak as a result...it's a fantastic read anyway!
     
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    I'll read it to you, of course.
     
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    'Four Kings' is an excellent read thus far.
     
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    Stevie boy, incidentally, I find the iPad surprisingly good as an e reader, especially in bed. Unlike a book or a kindle, the lit screen is useful, as you can read it in bed without a lamp. Just make sure you turn brightness ALL the way down in iBook settings, so it's much easier on the eyes.

    Skype is no good btw, I want a phonecall as SOON as you start reading it. Skype is too delayed, I might not be at my computer or iPad.
     
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    liked this, especially the james toney stuff.
     
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    you want toney's snake in your ass?
     
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    Peeled through the first couple of chapters over the weekend. Nice read so far - although little things irk me, like how he talks about Foreman's three round destruction of Frazier.
     
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