Kirkland vs Molina: Predictions

it's bullshit that is why. Jake is as biased as Shorle. He hates Goldenboy. So do i, FRANKLY. Doesn't change the fact that the ref did nothing wrong and dq'd a fighter legitimately.

 

There's no proof he didn't.

 

I haven't been looking at it from any kind of conspiracy angle as I could really care less who won this crap fight between two shit fighters

I have merely been pointing out that continuing the count nullifies DQing somebody for something that happened BEFORE YOU CONTINUED, as should be self-evident to anyone who isn't gay

 

I love poontang, but I'm not sure I agree with that.

 

Who cares? The real story here is that two fighters as shitty as Molina and Kirkland were on HBO. I can't remember two fighters as shitty as them on HBO in the same fight.

 

No it fucking doesn't. are you really this stupid? You can't tell what the difference between a fact and opinion ?

Your point is beyond stupid. It is meaningless because you are wrong. YOU GUYS HAVE NOTHING.

I love how Jake or any of you clowns DON'T even haVE the guts to check the WBC rules. Do it. I DARE YOU.


You will see that entering the ring before the round is over is an offense that may result in a dq. Do you guys not know this basic rule? Are you kidding me.

What do you base your ridiculous point on. It is a non sequitur. It is like saying a black car causes cancer. It is literally nonsense.

 

Check this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMZuG5z5l2M

118 clinches and they were all initiated by Molina. He was literally running up to Kirkland to clinch then run him to the ropes. He was also hitting on the break and holding Kirklands head down and hitting him. Molina should have been dq'd long before he was if Shorle wasn't such a clown.

 

If he was such a homer why didn't he deduct points from Molina during the bout?

 

i didnt enjoy molinas strategy and dont care to see him again, but bottom line is if schorle was a competent official he would have warned the guy sternly and who is to say whether or not molina would have continued fighting in the manner he did?

 

It's already been answered.

 

I don't know, man. The more I think about it, incompetence alone doesn't to it for me. It's too bizarre. He must know holding is against the rules? That's some entry level shit.

 

Texas Commission's rule 61.41(K)(6):
When a round ends before a contestant who was knocked down rises, the bell shall not ring, and the count shall continue. If the contestant rises before the count of ten, the bell shall ring ending the round.

 

Is this the same as ABC rules?

 

The argument presented as to why Schorle didn't deduct points is that clinching on its own isn't a foul, but excessive clinching is - at least as the rule states in California, where he normally officiates.

Now, before you scream that it was excessive clinching - I agree, it was. Points should have been deducted. However, differentiating between the two becomes a judgment call.

Schorle obviously made a very, very poor judgment - just as he did at the end of the fight.

 

there's nothing specific mentioned in the ABC rules. It just says a fighter cannot be saved by the bell in any round.

What that's supposed to mean is that the knocked down fighter must beat the count, rather the count ending if the bell rings to end the round.

 

:: I'm not screaming.

Just odd all around. If there was ever a chance to be a homer with no repercussions, this was it.

 

I can't believe you are so stupid that you think such a rule would even need to exist since it is understood by the meaning of disqualification

I am amazed at how simple you are

 

Brushing you teeth must amaze you with your intellect. Sunglasses cause cancer it is common sense, if you don't see it you are dumb. That is your argument.SIMPLE IS watching boxing your whole life and not knowing a cornerman entering the ring is illegal and an offense and can result in a dq.

kEEP THIS UP, I will continue to knock the collective cum out of your mouths.

 

As for Jake's non sequitur. One only needs to go to rule one WC-1 Applicable Rules. These World Championship Rules govern this and all
other WBC-sanctioned championship and elimination bouts, as well as
WBC affiliated titles, which shall also be governed by the WBC Rules and
Regulations and in agreement with the rules of the local boxing
commission where the contest is held. In the event of an inconsistency
between a rule of the local commission and one contained herein, and the
WBC has agreed to proceed with the bout being a WBC-sanctioned bout,
the local commission shall be responsible for the enforcement of its own
rules and regulations, and the WBC shall reserve its right to take
appropriate actions or decisions to resolve any controversy as it may
deem necessary and appropriate.

The WBC Rules for counts conflict with the tEXAS Rules. SO unless the Texas commission enforced their count then the WBC RULE APPLIES. The commission allowed the dq. THEREFORE, it was valid.That is the reason Jake ducked my challenge to quote the wbc RULE IN A COWARDLY FASHION. He knew it was irrelevant.

 

So the timekeeper fucked up?

 

Show me in the WBC rules where it states:
- The referee can begin a count without picking it up from the time keeper
- The referee can begin a count without ensuring that the fighter who scored a knockdown is in a neutral corner

When you address those issues, I'll come back to your agenda-driven bullshit.

 

Shit just got real.

 

there ya go, Ike ^

 

Ike has gotten really angry and short-tempered...

 

Is Good Ol' "Shits & Giggles" Now CONSTIPATED???...



REEDopcorn:

 

Show me the wbc RULE that people are allowed to go into the ring while the round is still o-going. Are you this stupid? The dq was because MOLINA'S CORNER RAN INTO THE RING

He also tried to put Kirkland in the neutral corner after the count because Kirlkland went to the neutral corner. Show me the rule jake that the referree is prohibited from dq'ing a fighter for his corner entering the ring.

ANOTHER THING. I have never once argued Shorle handled the situation perfectly. I agree with most of the errors you listed. So tell me, what the fuck does that have to do with dq. Show me a rule that says any of his mistakes , nullify Molina's corners act. I am not one of these humps. You have no point so admit it.


That goes for Jake, Ccunt, Reed any of you cocksuckers. If you want me to continue to beat and slap the cum from your collective mouths keep going.


Jake I am calling you out.

nO MORE BULLSHIT AND QUOTING IRRELEVANt RULES. Show me the one that says Shorle was prohibited FROM DQ'ING Molina for his corner entering the ring.


Show me that rule and no other rule. That is the only relevant topic here. Had Molina's corner not entered the ring. Molina wins. Period. Show me what gives you the authority to say the referee was NOT allowed to dq a fighter for what his corner did. Show me.

 

It is as irrelevant as what you said. Show me a rule that say any of Shorle's numerous mistakes somehow prohibits him from disqualifying Molina.

Here you go http://wbcboxing.com/downloads/RULES_FOR_CHAMPIONSHIP_FIGHTS_-_SYNTHESIZED_09.pdf

Let's say Shorle made 70 mistakes. How do any of the errors prohibit him from disqualifying Molina. Go ahead.


I DARE YOU? PLEASE Shut me up. For the 5000th time. Shorle made plenty of mistakes. NO OF WHICH would ever be discussed had Molina's corner not jumped into the ring. TRY TO think for a second. List every fuck up Shorle did tht you say and Jake said and all of the rules for both Texas and the WBC, how does that nullify him from dq'ing Molina. It just doesn't. Shorle may have contributed to confusion, but either way his corner jumped. I also don't think it is within the realm of reason that Shorle's act was purposeful as he would have to creat a kd at that exact moment.

 

you shut up, you little cunt

I never said the ref was in any conspiracy, I don't buy that angle, frankly

For the 5000th time, do you understand how a disqualification works? Apparently not. And you refuse to simply use your head. This is straightforward, non-abstract logic. It has been spelled out for you ad nauseum in this thread and because you refuse to consider the possibility of your being incorrect, you keep running off at the fingertips with all of your "I'm killing you guys, you are sucking my cum" bullshit. No one is going to provide you with this "rule" because the rule has no purpose for existing in the first place. Certainly no one could have anticipated that an official would interrupt a DQ-able offense in progress and then NOT ISSUE THE DQ and then continue a count that he shouldn't have continued in the first place. "WHERE'S THE RULE???:wack:" Where's the rule that says a referee isn't allowed to keep a fight going for 15 seconds after a blatant low blow and then just decide to stop it and say "wait, this guy needs a rest because you hit him in the balls 15 seconds ago"?? where's that rule??? IT'S NOT IN THERE, BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON FOR IT TO BE. THE REFEREE IS SUPPOSED TO SEE THE BLATANT LOW BLOW AND ACT ACCORDINGLY IN THE MOMENT

STOP BEING SO STUPID

I'm getting tired of slapping your face with my cock blahblahblah :limp:

 

I read Cdogg's reply until the first error. He needs to write a book because bullshit requires more bullshit. He still repeats irrelevant and nonsensical hypotheticals.


Cdogg, why was Molina disqualified in a sentence or less. Don't explain or insult. Just answer a simple question why did John Shorle AND THE Texas commission end the contest. Why?Please keep this in mind it wasn't just Shorle. The commission rubber stamped it. Why did they do it? I could do it in this many words. x x x x x x x. 7 words.


Jake or anyone else is open to the challenge. Answer my questions. I guess providing the rules was beyond your collective abilities. I will simpify it. I will even allow a hint. He was disqualified.

I will start a sentence for you chimps. Molina was disqualified by the referee and the Texas State athletic commission because ........... Feel free to quote the first part if it is too tough for you.


Also, since jake tried to Dishonestly assert the Texas rules supersede the WBC, how about a little trivia. Is the offense in question a disqualifiable offense under both rules? the only rule that matters in this entire situation. Do the WBC and The Texas commission agree on this rule?I don''t want your brains to explode. It is. Please don't take my word for it. DO SOME RESEARCH and then run your mouths.

 

Free ike tko 1 fightbeat. Unbelievable.