HBO Face Off Mayweather vs Cotto (Preview)

:: That's funny. You're funny.

 

You picked Oscar to beat him didn't you? In fact i distinctly remember you telling anyone who would listen that PBF would never fight De la Hoya.

You've been proven wrong again and again where PBF is concerned. I've always been proven right. And I'm not some "groupie"...i recognoized Floyd's talent long before anyone else on boxing message boards. I was the ONLY person that picke dhim to stop Corrales, for example. I'm not late to tha bandwagon.

No fighter is invincible, but Floyd (at his best) is as unbeatable as a fighter can be.

Undefeated, 5 weight classes, over 40 fights. Don't hate, appreciate!

Where's your precious Castillo now? You wouldn't recognize boxing greatness even if it crawled up your unwashed inbred ass and died there.

 

I was a fan of his too, back when he competed at the highest level. And like you, I picked him to beat Corrales. And I was a fan of his. I don't deny PBF's greatness.

If you read my post, I said he was smart to fight safe against ODH when he couldn't control the pace and ODH was willing to punch with him.

I don't blame PBF for fighting smart. I blame him for picking and choosing opponents he knows he can out-muscle, who won't have a height advantage and who won't exchange with him. He's at a point in his career where he's manipulating his standing by keeping his opponents just good enough to be on PPV, but nothing he could possibly lose.

 

mosely was shot

 

What a load of nonsense!

 

Why the call for a rematch?

 

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Would you say the fight was close?

 

For the first eight rounds. You'd have to be incompetent or biased to score the bout for Oscar.

 

YOU predicted that Floyd would stop Corrales? Diego was seen as steel chinned at the time: he'd never previously even been floored and Floyd was seen as a cutesy boxer. If you called it too, then mad respect to you my brother.

 

word.

 

Also, there was no call for a rematch from any actual fans of boxing.

 

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THANKS!

Miguel Cotto is very likable. No doubt. I think Floyd likes him too, genuinely.

Floyd was acting as a prick as usual, checking the Ipad for his game results...pretending that he's not even fazed by the Cotto fight. I certainly see why people root against him.

I don't see how Cotto can win this though, save for a miracle body shot. Floyd is too good, and Cotto is made for him.

 

Odh exposed there's nothing unbeatable about pbf, save his selection of opponents.

We saw what happens when pbf is kept on end of a jab and when opponents are sophisticated enough to not let him control the pace and go on offense uncontested.

 

This doesn't make your call for a rematch post any less silly.

 

why didn't floyd want the rematch? Answer me that.

 

I didn't see him asking for a rematch with Hatton either...

 

Sly, try making sense.

 

A rematch would have had the same outcome.

Oscar was past his prime and he did the best he could do vs Floyd the first time and came up short.

Beating Oscar twice would not have done anything for Floyd in terms of legacy.

 

So, floyd fights for legacy? And that's why ghe rematch didn't happen?

 

It didn't make sense to fight Oscar again.

There was nothign that happened in that fight to make anyone believe the outcome was going to be different a second time.

Oscar had some moments but ultimately he was beaten rather handily by Floyd. It was like a sparring match.

Why would you want to see that again?:scratcher:

 

I did make sense, it was just too far beyond your ability to comprehend. Floyd beat Oscar clearly. No need for a rematch. There was no need to rematch, Judah, Baldomir, Hatton or Mosley either.

Understood?

 

the rematch didn't happen because Floyd wasn't happy with the financial package Oscar was offering. He felt that he established himself as a bigger star than what was being offered, and instead decided to "retire."

Gotta love the irony, since he's doing the same thing every time he steps to the negotiating table.

Anyway, that's why the rematch (which was rumored/destined for mid Sep. '08) didn't happen.

 

Now this I cannot abide - the idea that pbf coasted to victory over odh. this kind of revision is why i see the need to regularly revisit pbf/odh, to remind everyone that in fact pbf struggled against odh and that he wasn't impressive. This idea that pbf easily won? Utter malarky.

 

I gave Oscar 4 rounds at the most against PBF. He hardly landed. And the rounds I gave him were more because he outworked Floyd but he still was missing most of his shots and Floyd was potshotting him with the cleaner shots all night.

What was so controversial about that fight?

 

My point isn't that it was controversial. My issue is with any characterization of that fight as being an easy one for pbf. For the first time, pbf had over a million watching him on ppv. He had every incentive to shine. Instead, he booked to the finish. Which is fine. But let's not pretend he didn't do so as a last resort, and that odh wasn't in that fight the whole time. Pbf failed to separate himself from a well past it great, and given the chance to try again, he elected not to.

I guess all my concerns are satisfied when people are willing to concede that pbf, as a welterweight, is not an alltime great.

 

Nothing, but it was such a huge payday for Floyd, why on earth would he refuse another for such easy work?

 

did you want to see it again?

 

Floyd is a man of principles.