The "FUCK Yuriorkis Gamboa" Thread....

Well, just Don't "Pretend" that U've EVER Had Much Good to Say about Roy Jones, Because U HAVEN'T...

Given That, REED'll Leave U to your WARPED Ass Sense of How Roy vs. Ruiz Played Out...



REED:mj:

 

is gamboa still MIA?

 

Jirov? To my knowledge GAMBOA HAS DUCKED 1 GUY. Roy clearly ducked Jirov 90/10 I kick yo ass and Jirov said Esta bien and Roy ran back to the swamp.RUIZ was not a better fighter than Jirov and anyone with a clue of knowledge about boxing knows that. Ruiz was not even the real champion. Roy picked the weakest link and i predicted he'd win easily because Ruiz was garbage and you used to say so BEFORE Roy fought him:l1::l1:

Once again I own your broke dumb ass. Everytime you see that I quoted you, you must wish the tornadoes had carried you off. s-uck a dick Dorothy and Todo too.

Nevermind, you also ignore the irony that the self proclaimed biggest Roy fan starts a bandwagon against another fighter for ducking someone. Did my "shits and giggles" make up the Roycott too? Anyway you slice it, Roy is considered one of the biggest duckers in history and you can take my opinion out of it. It was the media, his own network and the majority of boxing fans too. You have the right to sa "Fuck Gamboa" when he fights no one of note for a decade like your hero.

As for a debate, we had one at Boxingtime and you never came back. Secondly, debating you is like debating a creationist. You aren't on my level. I don't debate you ever. I tell you. I am the master. I tell you what is what. No rematches, Dorothy.

 

I'm not pretending. If there's anybody I was happy to see beat up by Roy, it was Ruiz.

I can't rate it highly just because of that, given all the other factors involved.

I wish Roy had shown the desperation in getting fights in his prime, as he's done since he's been washed up the last 8 years or so.

Hopkins and Toney were great wins way back when. Like many other fans, I just wish he had capitalized on those when it counted, and not when he had already lost most of the talent edge that made him special in the first place.

And yes, I would have respected Roy much more for beating Jirov (at that particular time), a legitimate Cruiser champ before he wrecked his career trying to go up to heavy, rather then a paper guy like Ruiz.

 

Not that you have a Grasp on Boxing Events, Current, Past or Otherwise, but AGAIN, Roy Jones & Bernard Hopkins were in the MIDST of their Song & Dance Routine, when Jirov was Dangled Out There...Bernard would've Potentially Been a HIGHER PAYING OPTION...

Head to Head, John Ruiz BEATS Jirov...& No, U Never EVER Said Shit about Roy Beating Ruiz...Not Sure How U Could Question Roy's Courage by Saying he WOULDN'T Even Take the fight, while Simultaneously Saying he'd BEAT Ruiz...Very Little of your Postings Make Sense, so @ Least you're Consistent...

The 1 & ONLY Debate U & REED Ever had on B-Time was over the Ali-Doug Jones Fight...& Debate in Which REED FORCED your Boxing IGNORANT Ass Into RECANTING ("The Fight was ALOT Closer than I Recall it Beingointlaugh:)...That's the 1 & ONLY Debate U & REED Ever had on the Site, YOUR Home Court so to Speak, & U Got OWNED...No 2 Ways About it...

REED is Offering YOU the Rematch, Because w/Each Fightbeat Post, your CredibilityOMETER Gets Lower & LOWER...But Alas, it's Obvious that You're 1nce Again COWERING...

REED Can't Say he's Surprised...



REED:cheer:

 

Whether his Title was Made of Paper, Aluminum Foil or Cardboard, John Ruiz was a LEGITIMATE Top 5 Heavyweight when Roy Jones EMBARRASSED him...

If U CAN'T Give a Guy Credit for that, if U Instead Choose to Blame a Fucking REFEREE (Overlooking the FACT that Roy was the Most Elusive, Most Athletic Fighter Ruiz EVER Shared a Ring w/), U're just HATING, Noble...

Ruiz was a BIGGER Fight than Jirov EVER Would've Been...



REED:cheer:

 

Seriously?

Roy was rightfully given shit for not facing Jirov, but once he said he wanted to fight at heavyweight (and did) a Jirov fight was irrelevant.

And let's be honest...Jirov wouldn't have fared any better than Ruiz.

Ironically, Jirov lost to Toney a month after Jones beat Ruiz.

 

Ruiz was a top 5 grappler. When left to his boxing skills.............well, we saw what happened when he tried to "box" that monster Tua, for all of 19 seconds.

Are you trying to say Jay Nady and his Ring of 1000 "Breaks", had nothing to do with the outcome of the fight. Roy was given all the space he needed to make Ruiz look absolutely silly? The idea of Roy being elusive enough to avoid Huggy Bear's embrace, goes right out the window as soon as you hear Nady shout "Break", or warn Ruiz whenever he pushed Roy against the ropes.

Nady actually let all the backslaps he got from putting Ruiz in his place, go to his head and become one of the worst referees in the game, ever since.

In-fighting and Jay Nady, are two words that don't belong in the same sentence...............ever. Nady doesn't even like guys getting close to each other anymore, before he moves in for some camera time.

 

So fighting ANY Heavyweight is ok.

A Ruiz fight meant nothing. He was a bullshit beltholder.

"The Heavyweight Champ". Bunch of bullshit. The true Cocoon of Horror.

 

Not sure the ref had much to do with the Ruiz fight tbh, Roy was just far too fast and far too good. The disparity in ability far outweighed the size difference, a bit like Pacquiao Vs Plasterito.

 

No, he was 1 of the 5 BEST Heavyweights During his Peak...For All of your Hate, Contempt & MIScharacterization, that's an Undeniable FACT, Noble...Look @ WHO Ruiz Beat, Dude...

Fuuuuurthermore, Fights AREN'T Scored on Clean, Effective CLINCHES, Last Time REED Checked...So Ruiz Must have Been Doing SOMETHING In btwn Embraces, to WIN the Handful of Meaningful Fights that he Did...& for as Hard as U're Trying, U Simply CANNOT Take that Away from Him...U Don't have to LIKE it, but U Definitely Have to ACCEPT it...

It's a MYTH that Jay Nady Somehow Influenced the Roy-Ruiz Fight...Roy's SPEED, POWER & MOVEMENT were Faaaaar BIGGER Factors...How Much Points was Ruiz DEDUCTED for Holding in that Fight???...Exactly How Many Warnings was he Given???...



REED:boohoo:

 

He was Top 5 Heavweight in the WORLD, @ the Time of that Bout...& he'd have BEATEN Jirov Head to Head...

Sorry, but a DOMINANT Win Over Ruiz (@ that Time) Actually DOES Mean Something...


REED:hammert:

 

I can't believe some of you guys have forgotten what a piece of trash fighter Ruiz was for the sport.

He influenced an entire slew of similar tactics used by trainers ever since.

I swear, Emanuel Steward probably made Wlad watch 100's of hours of Ruiz footage before implementing his chin protecting strategy of "Cocooning".

Ruiz and his style was revolutionary in the entire de-evolution of boxing the last 10+ years.

 

NOT ONLY THAT BUT Reed was one of his biggest detractors until Roy decided to fight him, suddenly,"LousE" was a "top 5" heaavyweight. Jirov was a more challenging fight, but a lesser event. None of this has to do with anything .


My point is Reed is Roy Jones biggest fan. It is hypocritical to the extreme to blast Gamboa and then turn around and say you love Roy Jones. It is exactly why I treat Reed with contempt or like a bitch because he is a bitch. hE THINKS LIKE A WOMAN, a cunt fat ugly woman.

Roy was/is considered on of the biggest avoiders of challenges in history. This is not my opinion. THIS IS THE OPNION OF most fans, media and his own network. Reluctant Roy, Roycott these are not phrases or words I made up.

I think Reed likes me beating him up here.

If Reed could think he would know he has two choices.

1. Admit I am right about him and he is a hypocrite

2. two lie: say that I made up the fact that rOY WAS TRASHED FOR a DECADE for ducking people and he always thought Ruiz is formidable.

Either way, it is checkmate for Dorothy.

Again I am not clear how making the Ruiz fight means he didn't duck Jirov. Are you creating the fuck Gamboa bandwagon unless he fights someone else I want him to fight bandwagon. Ducking is ducking and it is a fact Roy ducked Jirov. He told Jirov 90/10 we fight and it is on and Jirov said yes.Roy than said no Who he did or did not fight means nothing after. He made an offer or a challenge. It was accepted and Roy took it back.

Gamboa told Rios we will fight and it is on and Gamboa said yes. Gamboa then said no. Notiice there is nothing different about their behavior other than the names have changed.

 

Agree with every word. Roy ducked DM too. He said I won't go over seas, but he went to OZ to fight Danny Green after none of it mattered.

 

& REED Can't Believe a So-Called "Boxing Fan" is Sooooo Caught Up in STYLE POINTS...

Clearly, U DON'T Give Roy Jones STYLE Points, so Why R U Subtracting from Ruiz in the Same Regard, in the Next Breath???...How Popular would the Styles of Willie Pep or Archie Moore Be Today???...Was Roberto Duran NOT Hitting & HOLDING 2-3 Decades PRIOR to John Ruiz Doing Likewise???...Did Ricky Hatton Not SUCCESSFULLY Ply the Same Trade After the Fact???...

Did Pep, Duran & Hatton Also Contribute to the "De-Evolution" of Boxing Prowess or is Ruiz the Only (CONVENIENT) Culprit???...

Like who U Want to Like, Dude...Just Keep it REAL when it's Time to Assess WHAT a Guy Did & WHO he Beat...Oquendo, McCline, Rahman, Holyfield & Kirk Johnson were All PERENNIAL Top 10 Heavy's that Ruiz BEAT...U're Trying Awfully Hard to Detract from the Accomplishments & Meaningful Wins Ruiz had, but the Bottom Line is U CAN'T...

REED:kidcool:

 

To B CLEAR, REED Referred to him as "Louise" & Took Issue w/ Ruiz Accusing Lennox Lewis of "Ducking" him...The Mere Idea of it was PREPOSTEROUS...Regardless, Ruiz's List of DEFEATED OPPONENTS & ACCOMPLISHMENTS is what Made him a Top 5 Heavy...By YOUR OWN Admission, U Rarely Watch Boxing & Found your Anticipation Fulfilled by a Grand Total of ONEfuckingFIGHT in your Lifetime, so You're NOT Exactly a Reliable Source for Boxing Info OR Topics to Debate...

Which Explains why U've WUSSEDthefuckOUT for the 323rd Time, Even as REED GAVE you Carte Blanche to Choose a Boxing Topic YOU'RE COMFORTABLE w/...@ the End of the Day, U're even MORE Cowardly, MORE Bitchmade, MORE Of a BETA-Male than the Real Life Prizefighters & "Midgets" U Dare to Talk Shit about, Homegirl...

If Gamboa Retired Today, he WOULDN'T have Accomplished even 1/10th of what Roy Did, in his Career...But Obviously, THAT Tidbit is LOST on You...Roycott was Devised by 2 Writers that BARELY Garner Any Respect these Days & Fans like YOU Latched On to it...Yep, "Reluctant Roy"...The Same Phrase that Bit YOU In the Ass, After Roy Took the 1 Fight You SWORE HE WOULDN'T....REED's Still Waiting for You to Explain how U Said Roy WOULDN'T Take the Fight, yet PICKED him to Win, in the Next Breath....Did U Make the "Bold" Prediction During the Ringwalk, Staredown or Something???...

REED PIMPED you Out on YOUR OWN Site...U Can't Even DENY it, Shits & Giggles...Day by Day, More & MORE Posters R Noticing just How LITTLE U Bring to the Table, Beyond Over the Top Negativity & (Attempted) Humor...Whenever it's Time for some Nuts & Bolts BOXING Debate, you're CLUELESS...USELESS...& If U Had ANYTHING of Merit to Debate about, U'd Grow a Sack & Actually Engage REED, as Opposed to Backing Away like the Chickenshit, Low Pain Tolerance Having Scrub that U REALLY R...

Ruiz was a BIGGER Fight, a Bigger FIGHTER & MORE of a True Challenge than Jirov would've EVER Been...



REED:kidcool:

 

Rickey Hatton...............Yes. He's also a culprit. Don't make me out to be a fan of his. He's a direct result of trainers seeing exactly what they can now get away with in the ring, by watching Ruiz win fights using as little talent as possible.

I have no problem with dirty fighters like Hopkins, Duran, etc., as long as they practice some infighting in the process, try to keep their hands moving.

These 2 punch combos, clinch, hold and wait until the referee breaks you up so you can reset types. Fuck them! We already have MMA.

 

Fair Enough, Bro:truce:



REED