Ehhh fuck it! Why not? Bradley beats Manny!

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  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

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    Its rare that I pick upsets, but I've been thinking about this fight lately. And more and more, I see Bradley taking it. Just right place at the right time. Manny is disinterested in the sport, and his physical gifts have declined from a few years ago. Bradley will be up for it, and has enough to speed, skill, and toughness IMO to win this thing.

    Bradley by UD.
     
  2. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    I've been leaning this way too, but I'm going to wait until fight week to make an official pick.
     
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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    This is an interesting one.

    Manny to me looked quite disinterested against Marquez and Mosley to be honest. The Margarito fight was his last great showing.

    What I wonder is if Bradley has enough experience to handle this occasion. He's never been on this type of stage before. Pacquiao has lived there for about 8 years.

    For now I'm on the fence for this one. Will need some time to think about it.
     
  4. Xplosive

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    Bradley if nothing else is a mentally tough guy. I highly doubt the big stage will overwhelm him.

    Him coping with Manny's power and handspeed will be another thing, but the event/moment itself won't get to him.

    If Manny proves me wrong, and dominates/KO's Bradley, it'll be a top 2-3 best win for him.
     
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    I don't know about top 2-3, but it'd be a solid win no doubt.
     
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    But what could happen is we see another controversial win going towards Manny, when the majority believe he lost.
     
  7. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    i think Manny is going to look great in this fight

    AND i think Floyd is going to look great vs cotto..

    it will build it to be the BIGGEST and most hyped fight in a while..

    then all the pac lovers will shit their panties when Floyd dominates little pacbaby
     
  8. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I will laugh if both Pac and Floyd get stopped. It's what they both deserve.
     
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    Either losing is fine with me. Both getting their asses kicked would be divine.
     
  10. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Bradley is aggressive, fast, uses his clinches well, can headbutt with the best of them, has been waiting for this opportunity for a looong time. He is without a doubt the fastest opponent Pacquiao has ever face....
     
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    I think Manny is past his peak. Considering how much he relies on speed, his fall will not be gradual. Supposedly he's half an inch taller than Bradley, but I wonder how his stamina is going to be affected as he continues to fight at this heavier weight.

    Manny by decision, but it's gonna be close and it may be what gets Mayweather to say yes to a fight against Pacman.

    I don't know what Mayweather's afraid of. I used to think Manny had a good chance of beating Floyd, but now I think he has none and Mayweather's style is affected much less by age.

    I think Manny gets the win in a close one. My guess is he's past his peak, and he's gonna fall a lot faster than Floyd does. I can't stand Floyd's public persona, but he's a truly great boxer. Pac is an action fighter who's slowing down.
     
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    The only thing Floyd is afraid of, IMO of course, is not making most of the revenue the fight produces.
     
  13. Xplosive

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    I'd laugh if that happened as well.
     
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    Yeah, I'm past caring about Floyd/Pac. Cotto over Floyd doesn't do much for the future of boxing, but it would be a cool if a new star was born against Pacquiao. Even if Bradley can't punch. I at least get the impression he has the right attitude, but as we know that can change pretty quickly.
     
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    It's a very tempting pick, right time right place and all that, but I still have to pick Pacquiao.

    I think it's entirely possible a highly motivated and determined Bradley could just rough up and outwork an unmotivated Pacquiao, but Bradley is very hittable, doesn't hit very hard, so there is just as big a possibility as Manny does a number on him.

    I think it's somewhere between the two. Bradley gives a spirited effort, but Manny is still too good for him, Pacquiao by close decision.
     
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    Bradley's Definitely a VERY "Live" Underdog Here...But like Others, REED'll Wait til Fightweek to Make an Official Prediction...It's a 60-40 Fight @ MOST, in Pac's Favor...




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  17. mikE

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    Bradley would have to accomplish significantly more after losing to Pacquiao to make this true, and he'd have to accomplish it at 147.

    I think Manny will win an easy, safe decision. Bradley is too good to dismiss his chances outright, but Manny is the favorite for solid reasons, I think.
     
  18. *Z*

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    Manny might just Hatton Bradley. Bradley isn't real slick, he attacks straight forward and gets hit a lot. It could be a fight that Manny looks great in.

    I think Manny knocks him out.
     
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    And it would be difficult to rate the victory over Hatton.

    And that leaves JMM, MAB, and Morales wins (among others) to get past to say top 2-3 overall for Manny. That's a very tough standard which is why Pacquiao, despite being (in all likelihood) a cheating POS juicer, is regarded so highly.
     
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    Bradley is legit, a VERY solid, determined little fighter, but what you say could certainly happen. He's nice and short and hittable, without great defense, and likes to attack.

    I think my and many other people's logic though is that Manny is almost there for the taking these days, his heart is clearly not in in as much as it used to be, and someone as aggressive and determined as Bradley, with talent to back it up, could be too much for today's Pacquiao who is not prepared to take the same risks he used to.
     
  21. Xplosive

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    The Hell are yall waiting for fightweek for? Are yall waiting to see if Manny looks soft? That won't happen.

    Of course Manny is gonna be physically in great shape, as ALWAYS.

    But that still doesn't mean that he's as motivated as he once was, and still doesn't mean he's as fast/sharp as he was 3 years ago.

    I won't lie, this pick is SOLELY based off a gut feeling. I can't explain to you strategically how Timmy will win, because I'm sure. He doesn't have the style to beat Manny, I think he's catching him at the right time.

    The Pac that fought Cotto would smoke Bradley within 5. But I don't think that Manny exists anymore.

    But Hell, maybe even a declined, unmotivated Pac is still good for Bradley. Its MOST LIKELY. But I just have a hunch we're in for an upset.

    However......... now that I think about it, Timmy has to DOMINATE Manny in order to win. And I HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt he'll do that. I think Bradley will win a close one, but that won't be enough to win in the mind of Arum's paid off judges.
     
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    I'd be absolutely SHOCKED if he blitzed him in Hatton fashion. And for the record, I wasn't surprised at all by Pac-Hatton. Many posters were picking Hatton, and I couldn't see why. I picked Manny to destroy Hatton within 6. Juan Lazcano had tagged up Hatton, and nearly stopped him. It was obvious Manny was gonna slaughter him.

    Timmy aint no Whitaker, or Floyd, but he's ALOT harder to hit than Hatton.

    Timmy is just a better fighter period than the version of Hatton that Manny beat.

    But more importantly, Manny is NOT the same fighter that he was in 09.
     
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    I've got a little money on it actually, though it isn't necessarily my 'pick'. It's a good fight.
     
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    I don't think Manhy slipped as much as some of you think. He clearly took his foot off the gas vs Margarito and Mosley. He carried margarito for sure, and was beating up Mosley so bad he just coasted.
     
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    Me neither to be honest. He just always looks bad against Marquez.
     
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    Ahh fuck all yall! If Timmy wins, I'm gonna look like a genius, and if Manny wins I'm gonna say "I'm not surprised". :laughing::laughing::laughing:

    Either way, I don't give a shit who wins. I would be happy whoever loses. I'm not too fond of Bradley, and I wanna see Pac lose. So its a win-win for me regardless.
     
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    Exactly, he looked the same vs JMM as he always does.
     
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    He actually looked much worse, and more tentative, the difference is Marquez isn't as good as he used to be either.

    In the first 2 Marquez fights Pacquiao took far more risks.
     
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    But then again, weren't you claiming Manny was past his prime and had lost his heart after Manny failed to KO Larios as well? Just to have him get to his best moment and his best wins.

    Wouldn't be surprised to have the same scenario repeat itself.

    Pacquiao should win and look good doing it, Bradley won't give up like Mosley.
     

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