Jon "Bones" Jones vs. "Suga" Rashad Evans - FINAL PREDICTIONS...

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  1. Anthony

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    AGAIN. Evans Wobbled Jones with a kick to the head.
     
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    Yeah it does because hans said evans only way of winning was a right hand. He also said Jones' chin wasn't tested. Both statements, clearly not true.
     
  3. Hanz

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    Jon Jones' chin hasn't been tested, mate.:lol: You think because he got half-tagged by a strike he saw coming means his chin has been tested? It's the f*cking strike you DON'T see coming that will decide just how well you can take a shot.
    Even f*cking Wladimir has taken some good shots fairly well in his career without dropping.
    Let Evans have a few more shots on Jon's chin when Jon is unsuspecting and we'd get a better assessment of his chin.
    Jon Jones is largely untested. He hasn't even fought an all-out legit striker yet. Most everybody he's fought are f*cking half his size, probably around 20lbs lighter by fight night, have almost a foot less in reach and have limited weapons in their striking arsenal.
    The best striker to date he's fought is Rampage but how good is Rampage at this stage of his career? A guy who can't decide if he wants to do MMA or Hollywood movies and has stamina worth a sh*t and nothing in his arsenal these days other than his flat footed, C level "boxing". :lol:
     
  4. Hanz

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    Jon Jones' true tests await him at heavyweight. That's where he belongs. Not fighting guys half his size.
     
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    Great post Reed. Evans never got comfortable and that was 100% because he never had a clue what Jones would do next.

    This was a dangerous fight for Jones. Evans is the 2nd or 3rd most proficient MMA wrestler in the UFC. He is also a dynamic striker who has knocked guys out with either hand, with his kicks and via ground and pound.

    On top of that, as you mentioned, he was very familar with Jones from training.

    I'm glad to see someone appreciate the level of difficulty Jones faced and how easily he handled it. The dude is clearly on a different level.
     
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    you belong on the banned list, and it awaits you.
     
  7. Shoeshiner

    Shoeshiner WBC Champion

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    C'mon man. Are you being serious??
     
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    I am seriously trying to avoid debates.

    Evans is a good striker. I'll leave it at that.

    To argue otherwise is just uninformed.
     
  9. Shoeshiner

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    Machida disagrees with you
     
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    Been there...done that! What else you got? :atu:
     
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    Oh, so any fighter that gets knocked out CAN'T be considered a good striker?

    LOL.. OK..

    :doh:
     
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    You claimed if anyone thought evans could win they dont know MMA. I picked evans. And i know MMA. He had a very good chance in there. Jones is on a high level, but anyone, at anytime can lose in MMA and Evans has the skill to make that happen.
     
  13. Hanz

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    Evans was a very live opponent. It looked like he had all the skill and naturally ability to match up well against Jones.

    Jones is just THAT good.
     
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    :l2: Yeah, when you're half a foot taller, have a foot in reach advantage, are 8 years younger, 20lbs naturally heavier....I guess still, good job Jones for beating another little man who'd already been KTFO before and basically has made his name on beating a shot old man in Liddell and a bum who can't win any fights in Ortiz! :cheers:
     
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    Jon Jones is on the Precipice of Being Marketed by Virtue of SKILL, Moreso than WHO he's Fighting...The Jon Jones Opponent is on the Brink of Becoming IRRELEVANT to Bones' Mass Appeal...Hell, GSP & Silva R ALREADY Marketed that Way, Having Cleaned Out Divisions...Now They're Circling Back Around, Fighting Guys they've ALREADY Beaten, for the Most Part...Nonetheless, their PPV Sells Certainly HAVEN'T Diminished, Have They???...

    Jones will Be the Same Way...

    @ a Clean Living 25, Having Taken Little to NO Punishment in his Career, there's No Reason to Think Jones CAN'T Fight Another 10 Years...Barring his Untimely Death or a Freakish Injury, it's a Safe Bet that he'll B Around 10 MORE Years or So...Not Saying he'll Be an ELITE Level Fighter for that Looooong, but he'll Still Be Around...

    Sure, MMA's Ever Evolving, but REED Thinks it'll Evolve @ SLOWER Pace Now...Jones is Part of the Generation of CROSS TRAINED Guys...He's NOT Chuck Liddell, Bringing a Bit of Wrestling and Punching Power...He's NOT a Glorified Ghetto Street Fighter like Rampage & he's NOT a Ground Reliant Cat like Gracie was...Jones is DIVERSE Enough to Have Longevity in the Game...He's the New bREED of Fighter that Trains in ALL Disciplines...

    Yes, the Move to Heavy is Inevitable, but what's the Rush???...



    REED:hammert:
     
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    All of this is just funny to me. The comments are just rediculous. If Jones can make LH why would you say he's fighting guys half his size lol. Its stupid. Everyone was saying Rashad would be a huge test for Jones because of his wrestling. Well that didn't work. Everyone said Jones would be really put to the test vs Machida, that he was too technical for Jones. Before that, it was Rua, he was too well rounded and experienced. Now he's whupped that ass and pussies talk about him being too cocky, too big, not challenged. :atu: I love what Neil wrote about him staying at LH and getting that money. Its so spot on. Stay dominating for the next 3 years at the very minimum and move up when your body tells you to. He cuts weight and never gasses, until its a problem he should keep doing his thing. Bring on Hendo, Gustavson, Davis, then get a rematch with Machida to shut the homos who try to say he was losing till he choked him out fucking cold. And by then someone else will be coming up. As always.
     
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    Just like Dana will "Force" GSP Into Moving Up from Welter, Right???...Just like he'll "Force" Silva to Move up from Middle, Right???...




    REED:Lok:
     
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    Different Body Types, Dude...Rashad's Short & STOCKY, Jones is Tall & LANKY...Was the 5'7 Dwight Braxton Any Less of a True Lightheavy than the 6'3 Michael Spinks???...

    Of Course Not...




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    Training in all disciplines is one thing. Being proficient in all disciplines is a whole other thing. Didn't we all think Kelly Pavlik was a pretty good boxer until Bernard Hopkins exposed every f*cking possible flaw in the guy's armour? :lol: Guy looked like an amateurish f*ck. That's just one example. It applies the same way to Jon Jones who has yet to meet a proficient striker as opposed to a guy who wrestled his entire life and decided to do a little boxing like Rashad Evans.
    Also let's not even bring up Machida's crappy ass gay karate sh*t. That's not striking at all, whatever the hell it is Machida does.:laughing:
    Jon Jones is reigning over an old generation of fighters who have all been in the wars, all got KTFO long before he did it, and one of them (Rampage) is just around to make paycheques.
    He's using his physical superiority to beat up on small guys. Good for him but with the growing amount of boos, it'll be interesting to see how many people are chipping in their $49.95 to see him fight bums endlessly over the next few years.
     
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    Machida's a MUCH Better (& Infinitely More CREATIVE) Striker than Rampage...



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    Still waiting for somebody to name the LHWs whom Jon Jones can compete against after Henderson. Good enough to sell a ppv card by itself. Unless the UFC is enjoying producing one rematch after another.
     
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    This is the truth. Why knock Jones for being a good weight cutter? Sure his size is an advantage, but thats the name of the game. Its a tool to increase your odds for the fight. If he can do it, more power to him.
     
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    That's not saying much.:lol: what did creativity get Machida when he fought Shogun and Rampage?
     
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    Trust me, Jon Jones is far more valueable to the UFC in a scenario in which he's making his 15th straight LH title defense than having him as an up and coming HW.

    MMA isn't boxing wherein the HW division seems to garner more naturally attention. Jones isn't Evander Holyfield fighting at cruiserweight as a pit stop on his way to the more lucrative HW division.

    As Jarhead said, as long as Jones can make 205 without issues, that's where he should be.

    By the way, I am glad Reed used the Spinks-Qawi analogy. It is spot on. No one was pushing Spinks to move up to HW in the middle of his LHW reign.
     
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    Same day weigh ins and random testing. The sport will turn on its head.
     
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    Cant argue with that.
     
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    THIS!!!...

    Just Because there Isn't an APPARENT Threat to Jones @ the Moment, DOESN'T Mean there ISN'T 1 on the Horizon, that Could Position Himself for a Shot in the Next Year or So....




    REED:mj:
     
  29. Trplsec

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    As Reed said, Jones is very close to that point where HE alone will sell a fight against an opponent TBD.

    That being said, on the horizon are guys like Gustaffson, and potentially Moussasi and Cavalcante from Strikeforce. And who knows about down the road, maybe a guy like Stanislav Nedkov or Ryan Jimmo gain enough following to challenge.

    But ultimately, Jones will end up like Ali, Jones or Holmes, where fans pay to see him fight for the CHANCE he might be beaten.
     
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    Trplsec & Jarhead have NAMED Names, Dude...Still Waiting for YOU to Address the POINT REED Made about GSP & Silva Recycling Opponents & STILL Selling PPV's....



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