Jon "Bones" Jones vs. "Suga" Rashad Evans - FINAL PREDICTIONS...

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  1. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    hanz is a dumbfuck. but we already knew that. i dont really care much for mma but i will make sure to watch jones when he fights. the bar showing his fight with evans was fucking packed, and all tables were reserved. never seen that before. his popularity is only growing and if he continues winning people will watch him fight against whoever
     
  2. Anthony

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    While i don't care either way, i love to see Jones fight in both Heavy and LHW.
     
  3. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Yep.. Do you realize the GSP-Koscheck rematch sold 800K PPV's?

    I'm pretty sure the UFC could live with that from Jones.
     
  4. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

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    Sorry for the delay REED. I was just watching Paranormal Activity 3. Scary sh*t that was!!!! :scared2:
    As for Anderson and GSP, do you think them fighting the same bums repeatedly or fighting lower tier competition regularly is something we should applaud them for? Even if they can get away with it and sell tickets and make a decent living?
    When the books are written, we all know that we ourselves or the generations after us are going to be dissecting the competition on the resumes of GSP and Anderson. Especially after they lose. It's a very hard and harsh landing when a fighter gets KTFO because that's when questions begin to arise about how good you really are and whether you really were as good as what was once presumed.
    It's unfair but that's just how sports is.
    If we analyze the opposition whom GSP has fought the last few years, we'll be wondering "Why did this guy fight the same opponent 2 or 3 times and why did so many of his fights go the distance?"
    Being honest, GSP's fights for the last few years have been on average worse than manure in quality. When was the last time GSP rocked the house? He got outjabbed by a guy with no hands and who couldn't break an eggshell in his last fight.
    As for Anderson, who did he beat recently? He clowned around in a lot of his fights and much of his opposition was run of the mill rubbish.
    When GSP and Anderson lose, the hammer is going to come down pretty harshly on their legacies. A lot of people will call them highly overrated who fought in rather sh*t eras. History may not be kind to them.
    Jon Jones likewise who is a giant LHW beating up on smaller guys will face the same consequences with the way things are looking right now which is why he needs to step it up very soon.
    People will say "Jon Jones beat some scrubs half his size who had already been KTFO previously in fights so who cares?"
    Obviously it won't effect Jones right now but if he spends TOO MUCH TIME screwing around in a dead sh*t division at LHW and not challenging himself and trying to be the very best fighter he can be, he essentially will do severe damage to his legacy.
    Want proof? Let's look at boxing and see how Roy Jones Jr has been thrown under the bus for his refusal to fight the best in the world in his prime when the chances were there. Now he can't win any fights and has made a mockery of himself in is declined state.
    Look at Mayweather who is robbing himself and his fans by refusing to fight the best while he's still in his prime. People are already sh*tting on his resume and he's still in his prime, fighting once a year against handpicked opposition and not doing anything to enhance his rep or fight the best.
    There's a lot more to sports than just selling tickets and making money. It's about what you achieve and who you beat in your career.:dunno:
    What risks you take. What challenges you dare to meet.
    All I'm seeing around here are Jon Jones fan-boys and bandwagoners really.
    Let's look at something else. If Anderson Silva wanted to test himself to the fullest and make quite possibly the biggest paycheck he could ever make, he'd petition for a fight with Jon Jones. Anderson doesn't want to make any effort because even despite his skill level, he's afraid to risk anything and afraid he might lose so he's happy to just pay his bills and fight the little sh*tty fights he's currently fighting in a very depleted division. And he's fighting the same roided bum he already beat.
     
  5. Shoeshiner

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    Uhhh, to be honest...Jones beat both Hopkins and Toney which were both top tier opponents. He clowned them both too.
     
  6. Hanz

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    Yeah, and that's what's going to destroy his reputation. You look only at the short term. Wait for him to get decked and then see all these f*ckers in your bar high-tail it out of there, calling him a bum who never fought anybody great.:lol:
    Also, just in case you don't know how marketing works, Jon Jones vs Rashad Evans was a grudge match and extremely hyped. They were playing off their rivalry. It's what sold the event.
     
  7. Hanz

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    And then look at the gap between the times he beat them up to his KO loss to Tarver. You and I both know RJJ f*cked away his very best years when he could've done much bigger and better things. Don't try to blow smoke. We were all here on this board witnessing it all. Thousands of threads made about Roy's sh*tty habits of picking crap opposition.
     
  8. Hanz

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    GSP is on a completely different level to Jon Jones in terms of ppvs sold. GSP is the second biggest draw in the UFC after Brock Lesnar. Well since Lesnar is gone, GSP is now the top draw.
    Also, Anderson Silva's last fight with Okami was one of the UFC's worst of 2011 in ppv buys.
     
  9. Azazel

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    just saw the schaub rothwell ko. Schaub has a crystal chin. I think it's a unjust to jardine to say Schaub's chin is at his level, it's granite by comparaison
     
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    Isn't this exactly what YOU do?:dunno: You have been on here talking shit about Jones saying he hasn't done this and he should do that. All he does is keep winning, yet you keep finding a new excuse why he isn't any good. Very typical.
     
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    I mean, if you see this exchange, who would guess that it's Schaub who's ass was on the canvas following it ?
     
  12. Hanz

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    When did I say Jones was a bad fighter? I said his competition leaves a lot to be desired and that is MOSTLY because of the superiority in size which he enjoys at LHW. All I said was that he should be a heavyweight and there is much better competition up there which fans would love to see.
    But then you have Jones fan boys like bandwagoning Fraud F*ckweather fanatic Niel who think it's perfectly fine for Jones to just beat up on useless scrubs at LHW for the next 20 f*cking years! :lol: Kinda like Fraud F*ckweather fighting overmatched clowns and not actually trying to test himself and compete against the best. And apparantly it's all good with Niel because his neighbourhood of bandwagoning drunk morons are watching it at the bar in droves which is what counts.
    In every other sport besides Boxing, you have no choice but to compete against the best in the world.
    If Jon Jones decides to go the route of staying put at LH and just beating up continuously on guys like Machida, Shogun, etc in rematches which is what's likely to happen, good for him and his fanboys.
    He ain't gonna build any kind of legacy on that though. He'll make his 200k paydays and tweet about buying new cars and sh*t.
    And then when he gets KTFO by a younger guy, people can enjoy ripping apart his resume, calling him a guy who took advantage of his size against hapless contenders.
    Kind of like Fedor who fought a lot of cans and whose name has now been thrown through the mud as a guy who fought too many bums and not enough legit competition during his prime years. Same as Roy Jones.
     
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  13. steve_dave

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    God damn these guys are bums.
     
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    Seriously man. According to your expectations, I dont think there is a fighter out there that can possibly get your respect. Jones is playing with the cards he was dealt. Sure he has a good size advantage on his opponents but guess what, its within the rules and he uses it to his advantage. Sure Id like to see some better comp in LHW for him, but thats not his fault, hes just there to fight.

    And as far as the comparison to Roy and Fedor go, both fought the 2 best fighters that they could have fought while in their primes. Every top fighter in history with that many wins will have a few undesirable opponents on their ledger, its part of the game.
     
  15. Buddy Rydell

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    If it were a boxing match and they were being judged solely on their handskills, I would agree. That is not the case. Schaub is a former NFL player who has been able to beat people like Minotauro Noguiera and Crocop with only a few years of training in MMA. You are not a bum if you can do that. Ben Rothwell, his opponent, usually only loses to people considered the best when he has fought them (Arlovski was considered one of the best at the time as was Cain Velasquez when he fought Ben).

    Ben got staggered by a spinning elbow to the face and was being pursued against the fence by Schaub. Rothwell showed great heart and poise under fire to weather the storm and throw back with power.

    You've been asked to stop spamming the forum. It's not cool when there are fans of MMA discussing it here.
     
  16. steve_dave

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    No, that's what makes them all bums but I won't go on. The cage fighting fairies have won this round. I'll leave them alone.
     
  17. Trplsec

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    :nono: Big Nog knocked Schaub senseless in Brazil.

    Nevertheless, 'bum' is just SD's way of trying to single-handedly bring down the sport of MMA. His strategy? Trolling on a rarely viewed sub forum.

    Tell him good luck with that. :l2:
     
  18. steve_dave

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    You see why it's hard to stop, Rydell? Trplsec here can't help himself.
     
  19. Buddy Rydell

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    Sorry, even a fan gets one muddled from time to time. I wonder who I was thinking of that thumped Minotauro. Mir, I guess. All those white heavyweights look alike to me.
     
  20. Trplsec

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    I love your trolling in here. I take it as a small victory for MMA every time you hit "Submit Reply".

    :rock1:
     
  21. Trplsec

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    :lol:
     
  22. Neil

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    is the guy rothwell KOd any relation to houstons quarterback?
     
  23. *Z*

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    Surprise, the idiots who didn't even watch the fight are in here talking shit like a couple of crybaby faggots. Makes me not even want to post in here. Nice Job retards.
     
  24. Anthony

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    Let's not forget ben was punching hurt. He just got dazed by an elbow and was swinging out of desperation.
     
  25. Buddy Rydell

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    It reminded me, to a lesser extent, of Cheick Kongo vs Pat Barry. The KO came out of nowhere.
     
  26. Buddy Rydell

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    Speaking of which, I wonder how Pat is doing.
     
  27. *Z*

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    Shaub has one of the worst chins ever.
     
  28. Anthony

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    What sucks is that elbow that schaub landed was fucking sweet.
     
  29. *Z*

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    Rothwell is known to have a very good chin. Schaub, not so much.
     
  30. Anthony

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    yeah i dont know what schaub is going to do. They might have to let him go. The chin is just too soft.
     

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