UFC boss still angry with Alistair Overeem, promises to 'come down' on PED users

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  1. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    UFC boss still angry with Alistair Overeem, promises to 'come down' on PED users

    by John Morgan on Apr 22, 2012 at 4:30 am ET
    [​IMG]ATLANTA – Alistair Overeem (36-11 MMA, 1-0 UFC) may ultimately be granted a license to fight in Nevada, but UFC president Dana White said business demands made it impossible to wait for the results of Tuesday's Nevada State Athletic Commission meeting to decide whether or not to replace the fighter at May's UFC 146 event.

    And so it is that Frank Mir (16-5 MMA, 14-5 UFC) will now face UFC champ Junior Dos Santos (14-1 MMA, 8-0 UFC) in the evening's main event.

    White admits he isn't optimistic that things will go well for Overeem, and he's certainly not happy with "Demolition Man." And while Overeem's name may ultimately be cleared, White said he's going to make damn sure the sport's cheaters are eradicated sooner rather than later.

    "Believe me when I tell you, we are going to [expletive] come down on this thing," White said following Saturday's UFC 145 press conference at Atlanta's Philips Arena. "We are going to do it."

    Overeem, of course, was slated to face Dos Santos in the main event of UFC 146, which takes place May 26 at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. However, a recent pre-fight drug test that flagged Overeem for elevated levels of testosterone left his licensing status in doubt.

    White had promised to allow due process to determine the ultimate fate of the bout, but with that fight now just five weeks away, the UFC boss said there was simply no more time to wait.

    "What happened with this whole thing was I've got my marketing people terrorizing me," White told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "It just gets to the point where you've got to run your business. I tried to wait.

    "Anybody who knows anything abut the pay-per-view business, we're already past the deadline. We've got to run with it, and I'm not feeling too optimistic (about Overeem's chances to gain licensure). … There's so much more that goes into this that you guys don't know. If we don't get into the loop on pay-per-view, you don't get in a lot of the systems. There's just so many things that we have to do to run the business."

    And so Mir, who was scheduled to face Cain Velasquez, now earns a shot at regaining the title that a 2004 motorcycle accident forced him to vacate. White said he briefly considered Fabricio Werdum, who is currently scheduled to fight at UFC 147, for the role but ultimately settled on Mir.

    "In my opinion, it was either Mir or Werdum, and Werdum is going to fight down in Brazil on the Brazil card, I believe," White said. "Mir was already training. Mir was already on the card, and Mir makes a lot of sense."

    White declined to name Velasquez's new opponent but did confirm he'll remain on the card. And while he promised some shuffling of the evening's all-heavyweight main card, White said a Mark Hunt vs. Stefan Struve fight will remain intact.

    But what about Overeem? White admitted he has no clue what the commission will ultimately decide, but he simply couldn't wait around to find out.

    "I honestly don't know what they're going to do to that dude," White said. "I'm not very optimistic about it."

    There are a multitude of potential outcomes, including a potential suspension should the commission decide the test results violate the terms of a conditional license granted for Overeem's 2011 clash with Brock Lesnar. If they simply deny licensure, the commission can enforce a 12-month waiting period before Overeem can apply again.

    Other U.S. commissions generally follow the recommendations of the NSAC, and White insisted he will not be looking for any workaround to get Overeem back in action should things go south at the hearing.

    "We would never do that," White said. "When an athletic commission, whether it's Nevada, New Jersey or whoever it is, suspends somebody or does whatever or denies a license, we follow it. We ran toward regulation. We want to be regulated."

    As he did one week ago in Sweden, White refused to discuss Overeem at length. However, he did clarify the anger he expressed following this past weekend's UFC on FUEL TV 2 event was directed at Overeem and not the commission standing in the way.

    "I'm still angry," White said. "I'm not angry with the commission. The commission is doing their job. That's what they do.

    "I sat down in a room with Alistair, and he told me, 'They can test me anytime they want. I'm the most tested athlete in all of sports.'"

    White promises PED crusade

    While Overeem will still have his day in court, his test result is part of what seems to be a growing issue in the sport. White has been taken to task in recent media sessions, with some pundits charging him to take the reins of the battle against performance-enhancing drugs in the sport.

    White – who points to the testing the UFC already implements when bringing new fighters to the promotion, during casting for "The Ultimate Fighter" and at overseas shows, where no commissions are in place – still believes his promotion is already outdoing what is legally required of them as a company.

    "I love when the media comes after us about all the steroid and testosterone [expletive]," White said. "I'm going to say it again: We're the [expletive] platinum standard for this [expletive] in all of sports. We are. We test when we don't need to test. We do [expletive] that we don't need to do. We go above and beyond to make this thing right, and do you think – for example, look at the spot we're sitting in right now. Do you think we don't give a [expletive] about this? We don't want anybody doing this stuff. We don't want anybody using banned substances or drugs or anything else. It destroys everything – not only questions about the credibility of the sport and everything else, but it destroys big fights. Everybody was excited for this fight and wanted to see it.

    "Listen, there's a lot of people who like to talk [expletive] about us. We've done a lot of great things in the last 11 years with this sport, from building it to what it is today, guys making [expletive]loads of money, health insurance for all the fighters, getting on FOX. We've done things that people said we would never, ever [expletive] do. We've accomplished all these things. Whether it's fighter safety or whatever it is, we always do the right thing, and we come out with what I think is the best way to handle it."

    And while White has been ultra-resistant to calls for a UFC-run random-testing program, the UFC boss did admit there may be an opportunity for the promotion to link in some outside help in governing PED use in the sport.

    "Is it me running around and testing 375 fighters all over the world?" White asked. "No. You guys can talk all the [expletive] you want about that. It's not going to happen, but we will figure something out. Maybe it's WADA (World Anti-Doping Agency)."

    In the meantime, Tuesday's NSAC hearing will reveal what's next for Overeem. It's clearly not a shot at the UFC belt, at least not in May, but the situation could get more contentious depending on how things progress. White said he's not ruling out a "Reem" return to the octagon, but he's also not happy with the situation thus far.

    "We'll see what happens," White said. "I don't know, man. This isn't really my deal.

    "I've had situations with lots of people. It's how you [expletive] handle yourself as a man in life, in business and everything else. You sit down and tell me one thing and it's not true, or you're doing another thing, then [expletive] you."
     
  2. Shoeshiner

    Shoeshiner WBC Champion

    If hes "on this crusade", why is Marquardt still fighting for Zuffa?
     
  3. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Dana's crusade against ppv streaming failed miserably.:laugh11:Dumb f*ck should've just listened to Joe Rogan. "You can't stop the Internet!":cheers:
     
  4. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Should people be banned for life? Just take away the only way they know how to make a living?
     
  5. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Well there's a reason why they say "Stay In School".
     
  6. Shoeshiner

    Shoeshiner WBC Champion

    For a second offense? At least 2 years for sure.
     
  7. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

  8. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage


    Whew.. Thanks for posting Buddy. I honestly thought he was juicing for a second..

    :l1:




    What a joke. If I hear one more "I didn't know what I was taking" excuse from a professional athlete , I'll vomit.

    Overeem knew he was under the spotlight after fleeing to the Netherlands to avoid testing prior to Lesnar. There is no way he isn't 100% aware of what he's taking.

    Now, I WOULD ban him for life.
     
  9. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    Yeah he needs to be banned for stupidity.
     
  10. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

    That's some serious bullshit. Poor Overeem. Injures a rib and his stupid fucking doctor gives him medication with testosterone in it? what the fuck man. Fucking guy should have known better. Overeem should have asked and made sure what the hell he was being prescribed so he's guilty too. But fuck man that doctor should be fucking losing his license.
     
  11. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Overeem is a major juicer. Look at his body in that article Buddy posted. WTF is that? He's more ripped than f*cking prime Arnold 1975 at a time when bodybuilders were basically drinking steroids like water!!!! :lol:
     
  12. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    yeah not even close.

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  13. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    It's too bad MMA is littered with juicers. The most obvious was always Overeem. Fedor and others questioned his physique. The guy is a major juicer and should be permanently banned from ever competing in the UFC or any american MMA promotion. Overeem is fit for Japan where they don't care as much about steroids.
     
  14. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

    Damn look at that body!
     
  15. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

    Corrected.
     
  16. Shoeshiner

    Shoeshiner WBC Champion

    :limp:
     
  17. BOSS

    BOSS TBD

    oh be nice!
     
  18. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I thought it was obvious he was gonna use this defense. It's pretty much the only ''valid'' excuses you can claim unless you just wanna admit you juiced. That or he could have tried the Roy Jones and Sherk excuses and claimed it was from an supplement
     
  19. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    It's RARE that REED Takes Dana White's Side on a Matter, but he's Spot on In this Case...

    Overeem has Not Only SHITTED on a Highly Anticipated Main Event, but he Also Ran UFC's Cash Cow BACK to the World of Professional Wrestling...What a Waste...




    REED:pathetic:
     
  20. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Did you see Brock Lesnar on Raw last night? He's wrestling John Cena this Sunday on ppv. I'm not sure Lesnar in his current state would've lasted much longer in the UFC. His disease hindered him it seems and I'm not sure the motivation was there for him. Lesnar is a guy who wants to spend most of his time on his farm. Even his WWE contract says he only has to work a very very limited schedule. The rough 300 day routine of the WWE is why he left WWE in the first place.
     
  21. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Lesnar Endured Back to Back Asswhippings from Cain & Overeem...Back to Back to Back, if U Consider the 1st Round BEATDOWN Carwin Laid on him...

    THAT's Why Lesnar Got Out of the Game...



    REED:cheer:
     
  22. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Was Overeem on steroids against Lesnar?
     
  23. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Of Course he Was...

    Speaking of Roids, REED Wonders if Lesnar will Get Back on them, Now that he's Back in WWE...His Body Isn't Even Remotely as DEFINED as it Used to Be....




    REED:hammert:
     
  24. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    They should overturn the Lesnar/Overeem result or change it to an N/C. If Overeem has just been caught red handed, it's obvious much of his career as a heavyweight, or success as a heavyweight, is due to drug use. The win against Lesnar should not count.
     
  25. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I heard the WWE guys were complaining that he looked "soft" I am sure he will get pressured back on the roids. I have no doubt he was on them when he was over 300lbs before coming to the UFC. Just look at some pictures, his body got a lot softer once he came to the UFC. That is why I believe he was not taking anything when he was fighting in the UFC.
     
  26. Azazel

    Azazel "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Lol, you guy's are naive if you think Lesnar stopped taking steroids while in the UFC
     
  27. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    He did pass a random test. We will never know though. All I'm saying is he went from over 300lbs and ripped to 265 and a hell of a lot softer.
     
  28. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    'come down' or 'go down'?
     
  29. jarhead

    jarhead Undisputed Champion

    Anyone actually seen the WWE stuff with Lesnar. I caught some of Raw and noticed Brock never takes his shirt off.
     
  30. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    technically, overeem must have been off roids or out of the roids cycle since he did pass the pre/post drug test for the lesnar fight.
     

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