UFC on Fox 3: Diaz versus Miller 5/5/12

Plus, I though the card was pretty good. Sure, there were no big star on it ( you could maybe argue for Kosheck ) but still, all 4 fights were quality or exiciting matchup on paper.

 

Nice of RJJ to come in here and talk shit after each event. Get a life retard.

It was a good card, especially for a free card, I don't give a shit what the rating were. I watched the UFC and the Mayweather card.

Nate Diaz look great. His last 3 fights he has really looked good.

 

Jesus, how did this do worse than Elite XC and Strikeforce? I mean, even Diaz and Koscheck are more well known than the vast majority of people in Elite XC/Strikefroce.

You would have thought the UFC brand alone would be enough to gain significantly more viewers than the others.

 

I've seen a youtube of Hendricks beating Ben Askren when they were both inbetween high school and college, I think. Hendricks beat him pretty solidly, too.

 

Mayweather-Cotto wasnt effected by the Avengers movie. Like i said people can go to movie theatres all day not just during the UFC's time slot. So ot is a weak excuse. If anything Mayweather-MAC would be far more effected since it was on PPV.

It done a lower rating than any strikeforce or elite xc card. It even done lower than any XFL game. If you cant recogize how bad the rating is i dont know what to tell you. Many shows have been removed for much higher ratings.

 

I'm glad you're so concerned for the UFC. That's very nice of you. Seriously, we don't care though. Really.

 

Well if anything would be effected it would be a PPV that costs $59.95 right? Comprende. Going to the movie theatre is gonna cost anywhere from $15-$25 possibly more. So isn't it more logical that people that paid for that movie would be less likely to spend even more money for a boxing PPV. UFC on Fox cost nada. Zilch. $0. Mayweather-Cotto looks like it has done 2 million homes. 2.2 million people tuned into the UFC on Fox. That is one of the worst ratings ever for prime time network TV. Keep the excuses coming my manopcorn:

 

Actually there are a couple of ways to look at it. The UFC card didn't do as well as the first or second UFC on Fox cards but it did win the night for the slot, which means more people watching network TV watched the UFC than any other show.

And really that's a great barometer because it gauges the % of people watching TV that decided to watch the UFC.

The flip side is that this UFC card didn't draw people to their TV sets. And it's understandable. The UFC really blew it with their first 2 Fox shows in terms of attracting new viewers. To boot, a Nate Diaz-Dan Miller main event is only a big fight to hardcore MMA fans that understood the significance. The casual fan really couldn't get excited about a main event featuring 2 guys that aren't popular names.

I promised Reed that I'd stop with boxing vs MMA comparisons, but since RJJ had to immediately chime in, I am forced to comment. In boxing terms, the UFC main event was basically like a welterweight clash in boxing between Mike Jones and Paul Malignaggi. And that fight would never hit 2.5 million viewers like the UFC did.

And what's with the EliteXC comparison. I doubt the UFC will ever duplicate the EliteXC Kimbo or Fedor numbers or even their own JDS-Cain numbers. If they expect to, it will take something much bigger than Diaz-Miller.

 

Yeah you are right. The contender finale featuring Peter Manfredo Jr and Sergio Mora drew around 10m viewers :boohoo:

 

<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=551><TBODY><TR><TD height=49 width=52>Time</TD><TD width=53>Net</TD><TD width=331>Show</TD><TD width=60>18-49 Rating/Sh</TD><TD width=55>Viewers (millions)</TD></TR><TR><TD height=20>8:00</TD><TD>FOX</TD><TD>UFC: Miller vs. Diaz (8-10PM)*</TD><TD>1.0/4</TD><TD>2.25</TD></TR><TR><TD height=20></TD><TD>ABC</TD><TD>Shark Tank - R</TD><TD>0.8/3</TD><TD>3.19</TD></TR><TR><TD height=20></TD><TD>CBS</TD><TD>NCIS: Los Angeles - R</TD><TD>0.7/3</TD><TD>4.31</TD></TR><TR><TD height=20></TD><TD>NBC</TD><TD>Escape Routes (finale)</TD><TD>0.3/1</TD><TD>1.23</TD></TR><TR><TD height=20></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD height=20>9:00</TD><TD>CBS</TD><TD>Person Of Interest - R</TD><TD>0.8/3</TD><TD>5.71</TD></TR><TR><TD height=20></TD><TD>ABC</TD><TD>Hancock(9-11PM)</TD><TD>0.8/3</TD><TD>2.82</TD></TR><TR><TD height=20></TD><TD>NBC</TD><TD>The Voice - R (9-11PM)</TD><TD>0.5/2</TD><TD>1.97</TD></TR><TR><TD height=20></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD height=20>10:00</TD><TD>CBS</TD><TD>48 Hours Mystery</TD><TD>1.3/4</TD><TD>6.69</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I agree that there might be two ways to view these ratings for the UFC:

Bad and Very Bad.

Otoh, I enjoyed the telecast. Both Diaz brothers continue to impress me even though I had been convinced neither was that great. I like the heavyweight fight to guarantee a KO, I really liked the Koscheck/Hendricks fight to establish a title shot, and the main event came through in a big way.

Oh, and I have a like/hate thing with Palhares and it was interesting to see him get beat at his own thing without a vaseline excuse. One thing I really noticed about Palhares is that he didn't have the superfreak low bodyfat that he usually does. PED testing actually seemed to work for a change and it (arguably) showed in his results.

 

What the hell does that have to do with ANYTHING???

 

You claim 2 million viewers is the worst ratings that prime time tv has ever done? For one, I do not think Fox has the viewership that CBS has, and that's where Strikeforce was broadcasted. For two, if you're talking about ratings, many tv programs do worse than 2 million viewers---particularly if those shows are in their first season on a network.

 

I call bullshit on that. You really think that someone taking their family out to see the movie earlier in the day spending $60-$70 wont be declining on shelling out another $70 to watch a fight? You are delusional.

 

Come on Buddy. You know RJJ is going to run into the MMA forum anytime there is even the slightest hint that MMA or the UFC is faltering.

The problem is that the MMA momentum train isn't going to stop. Despite the ratings, Nate's win over Miller caught the attention of fans and the card overall was entertaining. Unlike previous UFC on FOX cards, viewers walked away entertained as the UFC jammed 4 pretty decent scraps into 2 hours.

And let's be clear, RJJ said "That is one of the worst ratings ever for prime time network TV" which absolute nonsense.

LOL... Typical RJJ. In his haste to hammer a nail into MMA's coffin, he makes a moronic comment with zero factual basis. Classic.

 

2 small draws in boxing drew 10 million people. That's what it has to do with it. Besides Paulie M and Mike Jones would draw more than 2.2m viewers on prime time national network tv.

 

Actually that was the point i was trying to make. May-Cotto would be more effected by the Avengers movie than a free card on Fox. Yet it looks like the free card on Fox drew a few hundred thousand more viewers than a boxing PPV. So the Avengers excuse isn't a valid one for why the UFC had a terrible ass rating.

 

Ok you are right. What i was supposed to right was one of the worst ratings for sports events.

 

It doesn't have the long history that other sports events have. My guess is it will get better over time.

 

what?


I heard Belcher looked good yeah?

 

if this card was for free then it was an awesome deal, great fights with legit contenders fighting each other.

 

Man, you really don't get it.

'The Contender' was on prime time during the week NOT on Saturday. It also had Sugar Ray Leonard and Sylvester Stallone attached to. Not to mention it had a $2 mil per episode cost including promotion.

By the way, it was considered a ratings bomb and cancelled.

And if you put Malgnaggi and Jones on FOX this Saturday, I doubt 50 people watch.

Don't kid yourself. And here, I'll give you an apples to oranges comparison just to show you how stupid they are. Friday Night Fights on ESPN consistantly does less than 500K viewers. "It's the worst rating ever for prime time TV."

 

Lets get back to the topic.


My God, how overrated is Barrys standup?? Thats supposed to be his strength!?

 

Agree. He's a great kicker, but that's about it with his stand-up in my opinion. His defense is crap. His punches are average.

But the thing that shocks me for a kickboxer is how he goes into a shell, almost like Lesnar, when someone fires back at him. Maybe it's because he trained with Lesnar at his gym.:giggle:

 

He's just too small really, he's got decent striking, it's not elite like Joe Rogan would have you believe though.

 

barry's terrible but he's good to have on undercards against complete bums who's never fought in the ufc. not sure how he even got signed in the first place.

 

The ratings have gone down for each event. The first was 8m the second was 4 and this latest 3rd event is 2m.

 

We don't care, really. MMA isn't going anywhere that's all that matters.