Yeah, I asked you about Andre Ward, did I??? :nono: Take a leaf from Reeds book and stay on course. Yes, in this case a few lbs is 8lbs {160 to 168}, which is LESS than the 7lbs Floyd needs to move up to fight at 154 against Martinez. Bottom line is we want to see Floyd vs Martinez BEFORE we would want to see the Ward vs Martinez fight.
No way Floyd's fighting Martinez. Not saying he should, but I'd be impressed if he took that fight within the next year............more-so then a Pac fight.
Martinez has been flooding around 154-160 for the last 10 years. It would be easier for him to fight at 168, not considering that on fight night he usually weight close to 170+....while Mayweather weight 150-151 at best....
So would I. And we wouldn't need any BS "Sergio Martinez appreciation threads"....we would all know who was who and what was what, we would all be cognizant of the legitimate threat of Sergio. It wouldn't require any selling. It would be a case of "Can Floyd Do This" and not "Can Sergio Do This". But he will never do it. He'll run and hide and Ellerbe will warn against "Egregious Demands" and some whore will put her arse in the camera and Bieber will have his say but we won't get what we want. :shit:
FUCK MAYWEATHERS WEIGHT. Let Mayweather come in at 152 and let Martinez come in at whatever he wants...maybe he can just give Floyd some money?? Lets see this fucking legend fight his ass off against a guy who weighs what he wants, for a change???
So did Floyd. Why should Martinez give a fuck about how Floyd feels about 154??? Its not Martinez fault that he's going to have a "functional size advantage" over Floyd, and besides Floyd should be used to overcoming such disadvantages!!!
WHY should he have to come down??? Why not 154 vs 154, or whatever skimpy weight Floyd can make??? After all, Ricky came in at 145.
Floyd will ask for a 90/10 split, Olympic Style drug testing between rounds, 5 lb. ankle weights on Martinez and a no-hair gel in the ring clause. Sergio will accept and Floyd will say..............."Who the fuck is Sergio Martinez?. I can't get up for this no-namer. I wanna be challenged. Paulie Malignaggi is a great champion and that's who I'm fighting next." Pac? Arum ain't even gonna let Pac open his mouth, in regards to Martinez.
Agreed on all fronts. Floyd is robbing us. Hagler wasn't afraid to lose. Hearns wasn't. Ray Leonard was as bad as Floyd but he fought the fights, even past his best. Fuck Manny and Fuck Bob Arum too. Its a spin machine now, and its on permanent cycle. Over and over and over and in the meantime the fans keep putting up money for junk.
Martinez would fuck Floyd up. He has a perfect style against Floyd. For Floyd he is way too much risk for far too little reward.
Illuminati sounds as though he's made a terrifying discovery,... :crafty: see,.. what did I say about your beloved 'trickle' effect,...
I never thought Floyd vs Cotto would open up such promising avenues. It seems now Floyd has taken Kiev, that he is obliged to go and take Moscow too. In the snow. And he doesn't like it.
Well it's good to confirm the tally on who's been damaged to various degrees, that particular exhibit you mention is called 'stewing on your own juices' ...they're broke and very much deserve to suffer this endless torment. I quit concerntrating on boxing along time ago though really, actually, concerntrating on it, was a fatal mistake. :nono:
This is like Tito saying he was going to go up and win the HW title after he fought Hopkins. He was going to fight Hops, then Roy then win the HW Championship. Come on. How high in weight at at what disadvantage does Floyd need to give up for you to be happy? Should he fight Dawson next? Martinez is going to weigh 173 in any fight against Floyd. You should be asking what would happen if Cotto and Martinez met at 154.
This would be one of the most interesting fights in boxing to me. Martinez should probably be the favourite, but it's a compelling match, and though Martinez is bigger, he's not that much bigger that you could dismiss Floyd's chances.
martinez is much bigger (15lbs at least) than mayweather jr. taller, rangier, stronger, hits harder, more durable. he is also skilled, awkward and could KO mayweather with one shot. martinez via KO
This is crazy, the Floyd fans are picking Martinez and I am completely sure that Floyd would beat Martinez. I'm almost as sure as I've ever been about a fight.
you dont know nothin bout boxing. martinez will KO mayweather jr. of course he will never get that opportunity, but hypothetically. martinez is the best fighter on the planet right now. and if mayweather jr or pacquiao think otherwise they can prove it in the ring
Martinez needs to do more than beat Paul Williams to make that claim. Who else did he beat? Some Euro contenders and he hasn't even looked good doing it.
And it was a close fight, I would give Pavlik a great chance to get revenge if they fought again. Without the cut he very well might have won.
:goodnews: without the cut that pavlik got when martinez punched the shit out of his face? martinez is the only guy who beat pavlik at middleweight.