Does Floyd vs Cotto change how you feel

Fraud is trying to convince the world that he wants the fight and making it seem like Pacman is the one avoiding it. And his retarded dipsh*t gay lovers are lapping it all up.

 

Nah...Pac's PPV #'s are Consistently LESS than Floyd's, vs. Common Opponents...Not Considerably Less, but Still Less...



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I thought that changed recently, like within their most recent 3 fights or so, with one of Pacquiao's being more, and the other 2 being only slightly less.

 

mayweather cotto will certainly do considerably better numbers than pacquiao cotto did

mayweather jr was guaranteed 32 million dollars, the highest guarantee ever according to the NSAC

 

Pac did better numbers with JMM than Floyd did. The Mosley fights were real close 1.4 vs 1.5 It's not enough to justify some bullshit 40 mil flat fee when both stand to make a lot more than that.

 

of course, but that's a totally different question

 

definitely. Still a good matchup, but the meaning of it is changed, lessened.

 

P4P 1&2 was a lot more meaningful in 1989 than it is now

 

Here are the numbers I have written down:

2007:
Floyd-DLH: 2.4 million buys
Floyd-Hatton: 915,000 buys

2008:
Pac-Jmm 2 400,000 buys
Pac-Diaz 250,000 buys
Pac-DLH 1.25 million buys

2009:
Pac-Hatton 850,000 buys
Floyd-Jmm 1.05 million buys
Pac-Cotto 1.25 million buys

2010:
Pac-Clottey 700,000 buys
Floyd-Mosley 1.4 million buys
Pac-Margarito 1.15 million buys

2011:
Pac-Mosley 1.3 million buys
Floyd-Ortiz 1.25 million buys
Pac-Jmm 3 1.45 million buys


Some sources

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/984047-boxings-biggest-pay-per-view-fights-all-time-with-video
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http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/livegates.htm


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/hiestand-tv/2010-05-11-mosley-mayweather-ppv_N.htm

http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/332/manny-pacquiao-ricky-hatton-ppv-numbers-celebrate-even-bob-arum-refuses

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2009-04-25-hatton-pacquiao-economy_N.htm

 

vs. DLH: Mayweather 2.4 million > Pac 1.25 million
vs. Hatton: Mayweather 915,000 > Pac 850,000
vs. JMM: Pac (third fight) 1.45 million > Mayweather 1.05 million
vs. Mosley: Mayweather 1.4 million > Pac 1.3 million


vs. Cotto: TBD

Throw out the DLH and JMM fights and compare the common opponents remaining and I think it's a proper reflection that Floyd does draw more than Pac, but only by a little, and he probably deserves to give Pac something like a 45% split of PPV revenue.

I expect the Cotto numbers to be about 1.4 million for Mayweather, which again will be a bit more than Pac's 1.25 million.

The kicker here is that Floyd doesn't have a promoter, he gets a bigger split of the overall pot than Pacquiao does and when he guarantees Pac a $40 million purse, it is probably a pretty good offer.

 

It's clear to anyone with a brain that PAC is a bitch


Floyd fought DLH and DLH looked great! H got up for the fight.. He was in shape and a lot of guys I know picked DLH to win

When PAC fought DLH, DLH was like a zombie...


When Floyd DOMINATED Hatton,. Hatton was 40-0

When PAC fought him he already lost and was basically a drunk who cut weight and was weak and sucked


PAC has been STOPPED!

Floyd loses 2 rounds and people say he looks shot :Lok:

Lol

 

This.
He'll always try to find a way out of the fight. Larry asked him about the money demands & he responded by bringing up the drug-testing. He's still trying to discredit Manny, even though he's agreed to the testing.

This should tell you something about his motivations..I'll give you a clue-Simultaneous avoid & discredit. Very poor.

PBF is tough in the ring, & I love the way he fought Cotto, (and Mosley), but he's a little insecure bitch outside of the ring. Maybe because he's a child surrounded by yes-men.

 

You sound exactly like Mayweather. Do you just write this stuff down when he says it? ::

That stroke really fucked you up.

 

I dont think it's cut and dry that Floyd is a bigger draw based on that. The Clottey fight was a bust but other than that it's much of a muchness.

 

Nah. Floyd should get more...but it should be 55-45 instead of 60/40

 

In fact if you take the sum of their last 3 PPv sales (which IMO are the most relevant), 2 of which have been against common opponents, Pac has sold more. I'd also guess Pac might be a bigger draw globally, outside the US.

 

Seems to me Manny is getting more popular. Floyd used to be the bigger draw, I don't think that is the case anymore.

 

Pac has 90 million guaranteed fans in the Philippines alone.

Floyd might have 90 million, worldwide, period.

 

I dunno why you'd say this:

Mayweather looked much better against Cotto than Pac looked against Marquez.

Have people suddenly forgotten that Pac was almost beaten by tiny old Marquez?

 

And Pac looked better against every other common opponent. Hatton, Oscar and now Cotto. He stopped them all. JMM just has a style that is bad for Manny.

 

:giggle:

Is this your big comeback?

 

They have fought 3 times, it's not so much a come back as it is the truth. Are you saying there is no such thing as a fighter just having another fighter's number? Do you watch boxing?

 

I think Floyd broke into the mainstream a bit quicker with his 'Oscar night'. DLH was more marketable than when Pac got him, it was a more hyped fight more people saw and heard about it. Floyd achieved in one night what Pac needed a second breakout performance vs Hatton to cement. I don't think either of those fights 'count' in comparing their appeal/marketability today.

The Clottey fight counts against Pac, but I just think Clottey was as saleable as eczema. Joshua don't have no country behind him, you know what it is

 

Pac is going to have another PPV night when he fights Bradley.....

 

It aint a democracy, this is America. A dollar a vote. Super Pac!

 

I doubt he'll match Floyd's numbers vs Cotto but that'll have more to do with opponents again

 

In 2011 Pacquiao beat Floyd in PPV revenue.

50/50 is fair.

 

Floyd didn't sell this card by himself, Canelo and Mosley helped for sure. Canelo is pretty popular.

 

Not to mention Cotto. Cotto's a huge 'opponent'.

 

Very interested to see the numbers for this. How it does relative to Pac-JMM will tell us allot