Miguel Cotto or Felix Trinidad

I meant Tito without cheating is pretty similar to Margarito when cheating. He was classier, but they were both stalkers who were hittable, but hit really hard in return. If cheating Margarito could put the beatdown on Cotto, regular Tito would probably do the same.

 

I hate Winky for killing that fight. Always wanted to see Trinidad-Mosley

 

Tito was both better and greater.

 

Please. Cotto wouldn't even beat vargas at 154.

Tito wastes Cotto.

Cotto doesn't have the size, defense, chin, or stamina to beat Tito. ESPECIALLY chin and stamina.

Its insane how underrated Tito has become.

Cotto would have NO SHOT IN HELL at beating Tito. NONE. He'd give a good account of himself, as always. But make no mistake, in the end he goes to sleep.

 

It really isn't. He was schooled by every elite fighter he ever faced.

Tito was a very good fighter, but not an elite one. He's the sort of guy that looks amazing against B class fighters, but utter crap against the cream of the crop.

 

^^^^^this....and I take cotto over Trinidad

 

Cotto isn't in the same league as prime DLH, and isn't in the same UNIVERSE as prime Hopkins.

He's closer to the calibre of prime Vargas.

 

Please explain to me how Cotto wins.

He doesn't have the chin, defense, or stamina to pull it off.

The Mayweather fight for some reason has people thinking Cotto is a defensive specialist.

I'd expect tards on Eastsideboxing to say Cotto beats Tito. I would have thought guys on THIS forum would know better.

 

Neither is Tito, as their fights proved.

 

DLH, and Hopkins had tools to beat Tito that Cotto does NOT posses.

Well, Oscar lacked the stamina, but he had every other tool.

Cotto's stamina is no better than Oscar's (shit, I'd argue that Oscar's stamina was better), only Cotto doesn't possess Oscar's height, speed, range, legs, and chin.

 

Cotto doesn't possess the same tools that De La Hoya and Hopkins did. Both guys are bigger, stronger, faster, take a good punch, and in Hopkins case has good stamina, whereas Oscar's has always been rather shaky.

Every single slick fighter with a jab does not beat Tito.

 

You didn't get the memo PR?

Tito was on the same level as Edison Miranda.

 

cotto would seriously wake up and think he was from ghana

 

Tito, slightly.

 

Not sure at this point, but I do know that Trinidad wouldn't win a second of a fight with Mayweather Jr.

 

The 35 year old May who fought on Saturday? Sure he would.

 

Nah, even the current Floyd is a much better fighter than Winky, he'd literally win every second against Tito. Tito would be jabbed, outmanoevred and pot shotted into bolivian, just plodding around eating jabs, and occasionally setting his feet and throwing a left hook 3 or 4 seconds later.

 

Peep the FOOTWORK Cotto Displayed in BOTH Margarita Fights, Consider the CINDER BLOCK Nature of Tito's Footwork, then Get Back to REED, Homey...

U're a NOTED Knee Jerk Reactor & Exaggerator Around these Parts & Giving Cotto "No Shot in Hell" at Beating Tito is CONSISTENT w/that...



REED:dancingBaby:

 

I can't be bothered to scroll up and see who said it, but whoever said Tito wouldn't win one solitary second of a fight with Mayweather is bang on the money.

 

Agreed, Tito really does look like he's fighting in sand. He's fucking easy to outbox too, Winky did it without even breaking a sweat, even Oscar was controlling a more prime Tito with ease, just by a solid jab and footwork.

If Cotto could keep focused, calm, collected, not burn too much energy by skipping around, I think he could beat Tito, especially the post Hopkins tito without the big, heavy wraps :kidcool:

 

Brother REED look at Titos earlier fights...he had good footwork. It wasn't until he started knocking people the f out his footwork became that of a drunken bum in cement

 

He always had big floppy feet, slow and clumsy looking, it was just accentuated in later fights.

 

This is bull baby

 

Nah, Tito's NEVER had Good Footwork, Brother LOK...REED DIDN'T Arrive Late to the Tito Party...REED Saw the Blocker, Campas, Barnes & Other EARLY Tito Fights...Even Back then, Dude's Footwork Left ALOT to Be Desired...

REED ISN'T Even Saying Cotto would DEFINITELY Beat Tito, but when Brother X Says he's See's "No Way" Cotto can win, then Rattles Off Various Criteria WITHOUT Mentioning Footwork, it's a GLARING OMISSION...

Tito Moved FORWARDS & BACKWARDS Adequately, but his LATERAL Movement was PISS POOR...Conversely, Cotto has VERY GOOD Side to Side Movement AND he Throws & Lands Punches in the Process...

Cotto WOULDN'T Beat Tito in Spectacular Fashion, but it IS Conceivable that he OUTPOINTS Tito...



REED:mj:

 

I think Trinidad would knock the dogshit out of Cotto

 

And if you remember back, his footwork looked better than usual in the Mamadoo Thiam fight, why? Because his opponent was complete crap. His footwork looked "better" in early fights because he was fighting people that were grossly overmatched, and therefore his footwork and footspeed didn't look as glaringly bad as it was.

 

I would have said Cotto has no shot in Hell to beat Tito yesterday, last week, last month, 5 years ago, and I'll say it 5 years from now.

How in the Hell is that a knee jerk reaction?

Compared to his fellow countrymen, based on STYLES, Cotto would have a better chance of upsetting Benitez than Tito.

Not that I think he beats Benitez either, but Miggy does far better against boxers than he would against a relentless pressure fighter/puncher like Tito.

 

No, its not.

Not with his shit stamina, and mediocre chin.

 

Just 1nce, Address THE FACT that Tito was All but USELESS Unless he had a STATIONARY TARGET In Front of him, Dog....

Again, U've YET to Address Tito's GLARING WEAKNESS (PISS POOR FOOTWORK), Yet U Still Persist that Cotto has NO Chance???....& While U're Clinging to Stamina, How BAD did it Look in the RE w/Margarita OR the Floyd Fight???...

Tito's ATROCIOUS Footwork was ABSOLUTE...Cotto's Shaky Stamina was SOMETIMEY...



REED:Lok:

 

To me his problem wasnt how well he moved but how long it took him to get set to punch. He seemed to need roots before he'd let one go