Paul Williams vs. The Ginger @ 154

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Dog Jones, May 15, 2012.

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  1. Williams by KO/TKO

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  2. Williams by decision

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  3. Draw

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  4. Canelo by KO/TKO

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  5. Canelo by decision

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  1. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Who would win?
     
  2. royyjonesjrp4pno1

    royyjonesjrp4pno1 "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Ill take Canelo.
     
  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Against this Williams, Ginger via either late TKO or UD is the most likely result.

    Still, I wouldn't mind seeing it. TP figures to test Canelo more than the corpse of Shane could.

    Likely a better test than glass chinned Kirkland would offer either.
     
  4. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Williams takes too many punches. I wouldn't be surprised in Ginger lays him the fuck out. I would take the Pre Martinez to beat Ginger though.
     
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    Now, Ginger, but prime Tall Paul beats him up.
     
  6. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    yup
     
  7. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Agreed.
     
  8. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Triple agreed.

    Although if Canelo continues to improve i may change my mind about his chances against prime tall Paul.
     
  9. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Williams. ANOTHER fighter written off as shot to pieces after one loss (and one sluggish performance after, admittedly).
     
  10. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    I kind of agree. He looked terrible against Lara... but all his bad performances have been against fast southpaws. Not sure why he keeps fighting fast southpaws.
     
  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    This is a valid point. One worth considering.

    TP is undefeated against right handed fighters.
     
  12. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Canelo knocks him out. Williams is too easy to hit and Canelo hits too hard.
     
  13. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Thanks. The point was immediately dismissed after the Lara fight, but I think it's worth considering.
     
  14. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    alvarez wants no part of lara, the top 154lber
     
  15. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    This is true. Neither does that pussy Vanes.
     
  16. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

    I'll go against the flow and pick Williams to outpoint Ginger or late stoppage via cuts.
     
  17. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Paul looks like he's lost his confidence, something that was a very important part of his risky style

    A KO loss like that can have an incredible long-term effect on some guys.

    I think he's a damaged fighter psychologically, frankly
     
  18. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

    Paul just needs to get his head back on dat swivel and he'll be fine.
     
  19. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

    IMO he is mentally like Tommy Hearns: when he thinks he has a beatable boxer in from of him, he will go for the kill. Otherwise he will jump to the bicycle to avoid further damage to his chin.
     
  20. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    :giggle:
     
  21. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    LOL. It doesn't matter how he is mentally. The difference is Hearns actually had the ABILITY to do both. The power to go for the kill, and the skills to hop on his bike. Paul has neither the power nor the skills to pull off either.
     
  22. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Agreed!
     
  23. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Not shocking if this is made.

    But I would never bet with confidence on Canelo. He struggled with Gomez for fucks sake.

    In the meantime, Lara will be ducked by everyone.
     
  24. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Was there some sparring session between them I didn't see?
     
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    No, just Gomez outboxing him in 2 or 3 rounds of their fight, before Alvarez hurt him, jumped on him, and got an early stoppage.
     
  26. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    The stoppage was bullshit. Canelo would have won by stoppage regardless, but the ref was CLEARLY waiting for the first opportunity to stop it in Canelo's favor. I was upset mainly because I hate that bum Gomez, and was looking forward to seeing him KO'd in highlight reel type fashion.
     
  27. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I really like Gomez
     
  28. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Agree. It's just a bad matchup for any version of Williams since Alvarez has gotten as good as he is right now.

    Unless you are a hard-hitting bruiser who can beat him in a shootout or a slickster who can peck and run, Alvarez's style and talent are going to make for a tough night.
     

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