Shane Mosley announces retirement

Mosely has been totally unprofessional in several of his bouts. We are talking about a guy in his physical prime who was shell shocked from a non-puncher in Forrest. For an elite fighter, Mosely lacked toughness both physically and mentally. In 10 years, all we he will talk about is how he never got stopped. What will be left out is his complete lack of trying wherehe sailed to a lopsided loss without any effort.In fact,I cannot think of a single long time elitefighter who put on as many disgraceful and unprofessional performances in boxingcan you. He was a whiney cheat to boot.

1.Forrest 2
2. wINKY wRIGHT 1
3. Marquez
4. Oscar rematch "Daddy he gots a quick left hook"
5 Pacman
6. Floyd.
Disgraceful non efforts.

 

Shane was great at lightweight. I remember him fighting John-John Molina, who fought dirty against DeLaHoya. Mosley fought John John's fight and did a number on him. When Molina tried to use his head against Mosley, Mosley did it right back and better from what I recall. He outscrapped a tough active fighter. Mosley in his later years was not the tiger of his youth, but who is?

 

Easier to be a tiger when you're fighting a guy two divisions smaller who couldnt KYO with a bat

I agree Shane was an excellent fighter in his 20s though.

 

Shane will be remembered as a very exciting fighter that had been grossly overrated in his prime.

The Sly One will be remembered for calling it long before the rest of the world knew. :kidcool:

 

indeed. the hit and hold was a major weapon in Mosley's arsenal, even during his days at 135.

 

hah!

"He's got a fast left-hook!"

 

I was 14 at the time and the alternative was seen as.....Tito :atu:, so I give myself a bye for having Shane p4p. But yeah, I remember you calling him a speedy slugger at the time Sly & you were bang on

 

Are you kidding me? Molina was a campaigning lightweight who had previously fought DLH in a title fight and gave him a hard time en route to a 12-round decision. Molina and Mosley were about the same size. In fact, other than John Brown, which guys was Mosley way bigger than?

Mosley had a few smaller guys like John Brown (who had previously fought 6ft1 Diego Corrales) and Jesse James Leija, but each of the other lightweights he fought, after winning the title from Philip Holiday, were his size or taller. It's not like Mosley had a Tua-like build, and from there he moved up to welterweight, routinely fighting bigger guys: Wise, Rivera, DLH, Antonio Diaz, and all were at least as big as Mosley if not bigger.

Claiming Mosley was two weight divisions bigger than Molina is simply not true.

 

Of course you remember Sly saying that years ago because Sly is well known for jumping off a guy's nuts as soon as he suffers a loss. It's been 10 years since Shane's first loss.

Sly has also been known to say "I was a bigger fan of Shane than Floyd's."

In addition, there were few guys that rode Roy Jones' nuts worse than Sly but after Roy had his slide Sly disassociated himself from Roy...his the original Roy Jones Sellout.

What some of us realize is that great fighters lose. Some have poor performances then rebound to have great performances. You look at the entire career as a whole vs abandoning ship like rats at the first sign of trouble.

Sly has been the latter for over a decade now. Some of us have been around long enough to know his pattern.

 

Mosley weighed a good 150 in the ring against those guys, he took major advantage of drying out and blowing up

Dude was already a welterweight

None of those guys weighed 150 in their lives

 

some of us were saying Shane Mosley wasn't necessarily a great fighter before he ever lost

 

To be fair to Sly he was saying that before the loss to Forrest. I remember it well, plus the old SO threads are there for everyone to see on the Wayback machine thing that Bam posted a while back.

 

Yep. Stafford would like folks to believe everyone was calling Shane a great fighter except for him. Which, of course, is bullshit.

 

have their been 10 greater fighters than mosley the past 15 years?

 

Just fighters who have fought in the last 15? What's the cutoff for when the career can start?

 

mosley became a title holder about 15 years ago. guys around then (or afterward)who remained in their prime for several years after that and proved to be better.

 

All fought 15 years ago:

Evan Fields
Mike Tyson
Larry Holmes
Pernell Whitaker
George Foreman
Lennox Lewis
Roy Jones Jr.
Bernard Hopkins
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Manny Pacquiao

 

Probably not.

Mayweather
Pacquiao
Marquez
Oscar?
I'd say MAB and Morales were as great or greater than Mosley.
Hopkins won a title earlier but was world champion until last month so I'd probably include him.

No, I don't say there's 10. Unless I'm missing some obvious ones.

 

no thomas hearns?

 

He slipped my mind, along with Ray Leonard

 

Don't forget Duran.

 

Many of those guys weighed more on Fight Night. Holiday was 150 for one of his title defenses---perhaps against Ivan Robinson.

Contrary to that, Mosley fought for the title against Holiday while dehydrated because he had diarrhea.

Mosley fought at 132 and 139lbs in the amateurs from 1989 to 1992, the year before he turned pro. He weighed less than 140lbs during the weigh-in for every fight he had before jumping to welterweight---except for 1 fight in which he weighed 140. So basically from 1989 to 1999, he fought every fight under, at, or just above 135. Hell, after he won the lightweight title, he was 133 for one of his title defenses.

Complaining about any weight gain is disingenuous because every other titleholder except the heavyweights did it at that time. He wasn't gaining 15lbs as far as I know either. I'm not about to go back through all the tapes, but I'll check a few to get his unofficial weigh-in for the night of the fight. My guess is he gained 8-10lbs on average as most other fighters around his weightclass did.

 

i wish i would have realized what a pussy mosley was 15 years ago so i wouldnt have wasted any time watching him fight. such an enlightening thread here.

 

It surprises me. He was 28 years old fighting at 135. From 1989 to 1999, he fought at 135 or thereabouts. Now some people are basically claiming he was a Junior Middleweight fighting Jr. Lightweights. What a crock! If you want to blame him for gaining weight after the weigh-in, then blame every boxer.

 

his last few fights at 135 mosley could barely make the weight and was coming in above 150lbs. he'd be at 35 for about an hour or two, tops

 

Oh yeah him and Mike McCallum.

 

Yup, what Muzse said was spot on!

 

Okay, that's his last few fights at Lightweight. Prior to that, no problem. I can't blame him for his metabolism starting to slow down at that age. ::

 

He was 146 early in his title reign vs. Ceballos.

 

I checked through the fights I have. Most of them were replays on ESPN classic and didn't have the HBO commentary. 10lbs isn't surprising since he had fought at 139 in the year before he turned pro. Like I said, blame one pro, blame all of them except the heavyweights. They all added weight.