Final Prediction: Manny Pacquiao vs. Tim Bradley

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  1. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I can do the exact same thing with Floyd's post 135 resume and you know this. Or will you tell me that Corley, Bruseles, Gatti and Mitchell are great fighters?

    Corley was coming off a loss to Judah

    Bruseles was coming off a draw with Ener Julio

    Mitchell was KO'd by Tszyu two fight earlier, why wasn't he fighting Tszyu?

    Judah was coming off a loss to Baldomir.

    Baldomir was garbage.

    Barely beat Oscar by SD

    Beat Hatton at 147

    JMM at 147 Manny beat his first at his best weight.

    Mosley who was off for over a year.

    Ortiz who is unproven

    Cotto who is clearly damaged goods. Manny destroyed him, Floyd not so much.
     
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    Yep :bears:

    Slight correction though, Ortiz isn't unproven, he's a proven scrubby quitter.
     
  3. *Z*

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    Word. He basically quit in the Floyd fight, trying to get DQ'd but got knocked out instead.
     
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    True, but that doesn't say a lot of Manny or his fans IMO.

    If so many of you are picking Bradley just think it will be very close because you think he hasn't fought anyone with a combination of ability/youth/hunger or because you think he is shot or because of a combination of both, if he actually performs great and KO's Bradley then it will just mean you all where wrong as far as Manny, just like you were when you were claiming he was bordeline shot just because he got hurt and couldn't KO Larios.

    :Thumbs:
     
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    He was coming of a great victory where he was the underdog though, few expected him to fight as he did and take the O and the title from Berto. No matter what you think of Ortiz now, that was a very legit fight against the best opposition Floyd had at the moment at 147 without including Manny.
     
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    Not once did I say he was borderline shot. I said he lost hunger, which he did seem to back then. It had nothing to do with not KOing larios either. Stop talking shit. His performances against Solis and Lario were uninspired, so was the Barrera rematch. It was clear he was still prime physically and mentally back then, it was more just that he looked bored etc.

    Now is very different, he has undeniably slowed down, plus I think it's more obvious now that he is nowhere near as vicious or hungry as before.

    I don't really get your point though. If he smashes Bradley, I think the main thing it would prove is that Bradley simply isn't good enough to beat Pacquiao, not that Pacquiao must still be prime :lol:

    And for the record, even now I don't think Manny is borderline shot, or even close to it, he's simply past his best, and a bit soft compared to his prime.
     
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    Berto is still unproven and now a steroid cheat. A confirmed one, not a mythical one like you will say Manny is.
     
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    I just think Manny's fans tend to overreact any time he doesn't look spectacular. I agree he is a bit past it but he's still pretty much the same fighter and I wouldn't be surprised if he looked spectacular here. Bradley has a really good chin but he's been getting hit by Jr. Welterweights, not by a Welterweight Pacquiao. I don't think he has the range to trouble Manny from the outside either. We'll see, good fight.
     
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    Same shit and you know it. Berto was just dumb enough to voluntary take the test. :nana:
     
  10. *Z*

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    Unicorn.
     
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    I dunno, I'm not really like that with any fighter. Fighters often have one off dud performances, and I try not to have kneejerk reactions.

    But sometimes when fighters look bad 2 times in a row for example, you can't help but draw conclusions.

    Obviously I and other people were wrong before, in that other dud period in Pacquiao's career, but you'd have to acknowledge this time is different if only because he is 33 now with lots of fights, and was only 27/28 before.

    We'll see, I definitely acknowledge the possibility that Pacquiao simply has too much firepower and is too good.

    It could go either way, because Pacquiao's warrior spirit definitely looks to have dissipated a bit, and a feisty, hungry guy like Bradley could either prove too much for this version of Pacquiao or light a fire up Manny's arse and get bashed. For me that's what makes this fight pretty compelling, plus the fact that Bradley is a warrior himself.
     
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    Personally, I think Manny's bitten off a little more than he can handle at this point.

    Bradley is a completely different animal than what Manny has faced over the last several years. Bradley has a combination of hand and foot speed that Manny hasn't seen. And Bradley couples the physical tools with a deep reservoir of will and drive.

    I really think Manny should have found another straight line plodder or slowed, aging fighter to whip while keeping the Floyd dream alive.

    Bradley is too young, hungry and fast.

    Bradley via close, but not debated UD.
     
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    Looking at them now, I am more sure of Bradley. I think he can and will win a clear cut decision
     
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    It should be noted that even this version of Pacquiao is a bit faster than Bradley, but I agree with you generally, I'm not sure this 33 year old congressman version of Pacquiao still has the fire to really go all out for the win and beat a prime, hungry, solid little fighter like Bradley.

    As I said in a previous post, when is the most recent time Manny even faced someone as prime and hungry as Bradley?

    And unlike a scrubby quitter like Ortiz, Bradley can actually fight, and is one determined little fucker.

    My official pick is Pacquiao SD in a fight most people think Bradley won.
     
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    It would be better for boxing if Bradley wins.

    I've gone back and forth on it.....

    Im gonna say Pac-Man eeks out a close, controversial split decision.
     
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    Bradley because he has better abs.
     
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    what are fuking gey or samething bich
     
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    Fuck it, I'm going with Bradley too. Decision. 8-4, 7-5ish.
     
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    Pacman's gonna knock the black off Bradley. WTF kinda name is Timothy Bradley for a black guy anyway? Should be LeShaun or something.
     
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    Would you be more inclined to pick him if he was called LeShaun Bradley?
     
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    No. Look at him. Even Zab Judah had awesome abs and it meant f*ck all.
     
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    Plus Timmy's abs are kind of ugly and curly looking.
     
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    Haven't given it much thought. I favor Pac. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pac "Hatton" Bradley. However, I think Bradley might bring it and if Pac doesn't have it in his mind to be a fighter and is all Jesusy he could lose a UD. Going with Pac by decision close but clear. If someone has to end Pac's reign, Latimothea Bradley is the a decent guy to do it.
     
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    as much as i have wanted to see Floyd-Pac over the years.. i'm not holding my breath..

    i actually thought Marquez won that last fight with Pac..

    I used to keep hoping no one would beat Pac so Floyd could be the one but i'm rooting for Bradley on this one
     
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    Make a prediction please. I have $100 dollars to burn and I am throwing on the opposite of who you pick.
     
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    Manny looks soft,..Tim is ripped,....Manny maybe lost his last fight...Manny hasnt faced a young fast black fighter,....blah blah blah . No excuses from anyone when Pacquiao beats him up, busts him up,...and stops him inside 10 rounds.
     
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    Bradley is going to sleep.
     
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    Make a prediction please. I have $100 dollars to burn and I am throwing on the opposite of who you pick.
     

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