Round by Round: Pacquiao vs Bradley

Man, King used to try and hide the shady things he was doing

This is so out in the open, Arum snickering, the pre-fight randomness... it's like the mob days

 

I agree, they are both worse than King.

And yeah, his ankle seemed absolutely fine.

 

I can tell how much I don't care about boxing by my total lack of outrage at this dec.
In the past (LL-Holy I, for example), I was pissed. This one-I don't really care, even though I'm a Pac-Man fan.
It's corrupt-Fighters are more businessmen than fighters. A lot of guys fight not to lose rather than to win.
-Boxing has very little left of interest to me.

 

unfortunuately, I kind of feel the same too. The only thing that has really excited me recently was the super six and the way boxers and promoters pimped it was disgusting as were the ratings wich were abysmal

 

Shut up

 

I can't help but care this time.

I feel disgusted more as a boxing fan than a Pacquiao fan though, I feel similar to when I saw Mares Vs Agbeko one, and that cunt Mora was in Mares' pocket 100%, it was sickening to watch.

This is even worse, I've never seen a 10-2 win be called a loss, it's mind boggling.

I do agree with you though that boxers seem more businessmen than fighters these days, the whole mentality is to cherry pick and then once in the ring "Fight not to lose" as you know.

Shit, who knows, maybe Pacquiao was in on it. He seemed to carry Bradley, and didn't seem that surprised or angry by the decision.

 

Wouldn't surprise me one bit. It's such a low-risk opponent that it makes sense to fight him twice.

 

Casamayor/ Santa Cruz comes to mind. I think I had that 10-2 Santa Cruz.

Just awful.

 

I was trying to remember something similar steve, in terms of epic robbery, and that was exactly the fight I was thinking of, but I forgot it was that fight.

Yeah that was awful too, I didn't score it, but it certainly seemed like Casamayor only won a couple of rounds.

 

i thought pacquiao was winning but not as wide as some of you folks and other tv watchers i spoke to. he seemed to be landing most of the big shots. bradley did worse than i anticipated.

 

Forget about big shots, I think Pacquiao simply landed more shots in 10 of the 12 rounds, the fact that he hits harder was just the icing on the cake.

Bradley did much worse than I thought, I expected a very close fight, and Bradley just looked out of his depth in the fight, he could hardly land anything.

 

I did make the comment at several points during the fight that Pac seemed to be carrying Bradley. Even still, how the fuck could anyone have that fight for Bradley?

 

I told you he wouldn't do as well as you thought. Manny is a bit past his prime but a great fighter will never lose to a solid fighter unless he is absolutely shot.

Or unless he is being promoted by Bob Arum.

 

Well, to be honest we were both right, or wrong, however you want to look at it.

I plain overrated Bradley, I guess that's what happens sometimes when you put some faith in a guy that is taking a massive jump up in class, that hasn't yet fought an elite fighter.

But surely you and everyone else picking Pacquiao by easy KO have to concede that Pacquiao didn't look good. He looked like he was going through the motions, and has become soft, none of his trademark killer instinct.

Hopefully you guys see I wasn't talking shit or overreacting now. Pacquiao isn't even shot, but he has lost his fighting spirit. If he still had the brutal instinct that made him a star in the first place, Bradley would have been stopped by round 6 without a doubt.

 

At several points during the fight I said to my friends that it seemed like Pacquiao was carrying Bradley, and the old Pac would've ended matters by that point. But after that decision, I wonder if there was a reason he was carrying him. I'm not a big conspiracy theory guy but that shit is just too fucking weird.

When was the last time THE STAR got robbed by a relative unknown on a card where he was the main attraction? Not just the star of the card, but one of the two biggest stars in the ENTIRE SPORT? Has that ever happened in the entire history of boxing?

 

Not that I know of, it defies logic. As I said in another thread, I decided against betting on Timmy on those great odds, because a close decision would inevitably go to the superstar/ champion etc.

I'm not a conspiracy theory guy either, and I was even laughing at Irish recently, yet he pretty much turned out to be right. Boxing has become too fucking weird recently, and although it kind of contradicts my point about him losing his fighting spirit, I wouldn't rule out Pacquiao carrying him on purpose.

 

Promoter Bob Arum: The decision was a ridiculous decision. You guys all know who won this fight. So let’s be honest about the situation. Hopefully we’ll revisit it in November….I hope boxing recovers, because this isn’t arguing about a close decision. This is is something that’s an absurdity, that’s ridiculous, and everybody that’s involved in boxing should feel ashamed.

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Pac knows now what it's like to be on the receiving end of a controversial loss. I won my bet too on Bradley winning, so i'm happy. Pac may get a rematch now, but he may just retire.

 

This wasn't a controversial loss, this was an extreme robbery. Marquez fights 2 and 3 could have gone either way, they were very close.

This was nothing like that at all, it was one of the worst robberies in the history of the sport, it was not a close fight in the slightest.

 

I haven't seen it yet, only read opinions, but the majority all say it was a robbery. Maybe this was the result Manny wanted deep down?

 

Oh you haven't even seen it, well put it this way even loadedgloves only gave Bradley 2 rounds, which I think is the correct score. It was a robbery of epic proportions.

Who knows what went on, but as several of us have said, Pacquiao looked to carry Bradley, and didn't even seem that surprised or angry at the decision.

 

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random thoughts -

Floyd gets out of jail in October. He probably won't have a fight in the fall, won't be ready to fight until spring.

There's an easy and hugely lucrative rematch in November that will have a LOT of attention on it due to the magnitude of this robbery.

Pacquiao, with the world's eyes on him, will likely KO Bradley spectacularly.

If he does in fact KO Bradley spectacularly, this will drive his stock/worth up enormously. He'll have gotten revenge, in spades, for his disputed loss.

That in turn puts pressure on Floyd and puts Manny in a good negotiating position if & when they start talking about money and other details in the spring.

.. Just an idea. Probably that's not it, but whatever. It's 5am and I'm falling asleep at this point

 

I agree with your last point ::

I don't see it having much to do with Floyd, or rather Floyd being part of the master plan. I feel this was scumbag Arum's doing to simply have simple alternatives to Floyd, with bigger money for the rematch, plus the ability to hype a new "star".

However what the fuck is the point in using it to hype Bradley? Even the most casual fans are going to know that it's one of the biggest bullshit "wins" in the history of the sport. Surely that's only going to create animosity.

I know I'd like to see Bradley KO'd now.

It actually makes me wish Marquez had got the decision over Manny in the 3rd fight, if anyone deserves a win over Pacquiao it's Marquez, not scrub arse Bradley after basically being schooled.

A good scenario now would be Pacquiao retires, Marquez fights Bradley and knocks him out.

 

I picked Bradley to win and Im glad he pulled it out. When yfactor in that he fought on a broken ankle it's even more impressive...

PAC is a bitch and he lost the Marquez fight and they robbed Marquez
I'm glad they didn't rob Bradley

 

Marquez/Pac was a much much much closer fight compared to Pac/Bradley and this is not even debatable. Pac won that handily and anyone who thinks otherwise is in love with Bradley's behind.

 

Was it??

Timmy WON!

 

Manny has received more than his share of close fights and I'm glad he's not bitching about this one.

That being said, I had it 10-2 for Manny.

 

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Exactly, so there's no point even comparing it to a close fight, it wasn't close, it was a 1 sided schooling where Bradley looked pretty much inept for the whole fight.