119-109 Pac. I gave Bradley one round because he showed a good chin and resiliency. Pac didn't fight enough for my tastes but He still outclassed Bradley. Pac made the fight closer by not fighting enough. He ran out of gas going for the ko. I like Bradley but he got schooled by a sub par pac.
That's why I made it visible. Just so that people could see that the vote for Bradley was from him & we could consequently disregard it.
Same here. After the first few rounds, I wasn't quite watching as closely as I often do. Pacquiao didn't close strong, but it seemed to me like he comfortably won the fight.
It's basically 45-0. That should tell you something about quite what an absurd robbery this was. Generally speaking, however much of a robbery something appears to be to most of us, there's always a handful of guys that genuinely think the other guy won. Not for this fight, it's beyond rational argument, Bradley was schooled and made to look inept for most of the fight.
If you think this fight was any closer than 10 rounds to 2, you need to start scoring fights by punches landed rather than punches thrown. Bradley landed almost no clean punches the entire fight, just mindlessly threw lots of them that mainly hit air and gloves.
i agree with his assessment of Pac as a 1 handed fighter though :truce: i've always seen Pac as the same guy that was schooled by Morales and Marquez in those first fights
Roll.. I thought we were cool...I actually thought of you as one of the better posters..then you say some shit like this. I don't get it? Why would you be a bitch like this?
Very impressive Fightbeat !!:bears: To date I have never seen such a unanimous agreement on a robbery (or in fact anything at all) as this. 48-2. I havent seen the fight yet, but looking forward to it.
Roll, you actually couldn't be more wrong about this. Pac is VERY different from the fighter back then, and the ironic thing is he was overall more effective back then, because when he was more of a 1 handed fighter, he was just a hungry, beast like whirlwind of a fighter, like the guy that raped Barrera. But now? He has a very good right hook, and an excellent jab, and good body punches. He doesn't use his jab enough but it's hard, accurate and fast, he really pops it out there and extents his reach, and it has no start up at all. He's no Floyd in the defense department but he is a much better boxer than he used to be, excellent footwork, perfect balance, great head movement, great feints. As me Hut said at the time Marquez 3 was the first time he was able to really box with Marquez, in a slower paced, tactical fight, rather than just ambush him with straight lefts and use mainly speed/power. And how did he beat Timmy? He didn't overwhelm him did he, he just boxed the shit out of him. Timmy threw more punches and missed 95% of them, Pacquiao just picked his shots, used footwork, head movement, feints, jabs, counter punches to school scrubby Timmy. The Pacquiao of 5 years ago would have have jsut overwhelmed and stopped Bradley.
good to see that working out so well for him :scared2: Pac throws more punches, sure, but they are all shite except for the left hand dwyers analogy of this is spot on
That's the point, they're not all shite. The left cross is probably the best punch in boxing, it used to basically win fights for him. But now his jab and right hook are a big part of his arsenal, as well as a few sneaky bodyshots and uppercuts. Dwyer couldn't analyse his way out of a paper bag, he's never been spot on about anything in his life.
i thought the worst scorecard was harold lederman's. i thought pacquiao won, but it wasn't a blow out. some of the rounds where pac appeared to hurt bradely, he was outworked for 2 minutes out of 3. my filipino coworker (a huge pacquiao fan) tells me that he thought bradley won the later rounds and after rewatching the fight, he didn't think it was a robbery.
Boxing is a hurt sport, as they say - that's the aim of the game. Not polishing the other guy's gloves for 2 minutes. Pac won just about every single serious exchange.
Fights are won on punches landed, not punches thrown. No offense but if your perception was that Bradley was "outworking" Pacquiao, you don't know what you're watching. He barely landed a clean punch in the entire fight, he was hitting air and gloves over 90% of the time.
Ok I'm gonna be real honest here... I was rooting for Bradley,, Last night I rewatched and I struggle to give Bradley more than one round