|||||||||SPOILERS||||||||||Prometheus

this reminds me of the Apollo 18 discussion.

 

shite movie

 

the plot, the characters where awful at one point i heard "its christmas and i want to get my presents".

there was no characterisation at all. i didnt give a shit about any of them.

it felt like some tv deep space nine bullshit.

just wasnt my thing i guess. i was kind of interested to see where it was leading which did hold my attention, but the characters where so fucking stupid. i mean the old guy was a young guy in make up, why?

the android was good though.

this from the guy that made alien....

 

Agree with the characters.
But how can you top 'Alien' (in any way at all?) John Hurt, Harry Dean Stanton (in a Hawaiian shirt, no less), Ian Holm, Yaphet Kotto, Veronica Cartwright, Sigourney Waever, Tom Skerritt - it was a great cast!

Everything about that movie was superb: acting, characterisation, sets, music, set-pieces. It's one flaw (if you can call it a flaw) was the overall story.

However, it was Ridley's magnum-opus and he'll never top it.

 

It was OKAY.....:dunno:

 

Were you expecting 'ooo-rahh' marines and tons of xenomorphs being blasted away like a video-game, Cameron-style??

 

of course not.....

 

Will definitely watch it again when it comes out on dvd, it one of those movies where you don't catch all the small details on the first view...need to go back and re watch it.

 

Saw it last week. It was ok.
Might improve for me on a second viewing on blu ray when it comes out.

 

same. will need to rewatch. I didn't really like the Matrix on the first viewing but it was better the second time around.

 

What were the pros and cons for you, Hanzy?

 

I don't know.:dunno: I didn't quite have a concept of what I had watched when I came out of the theater. It's like the movie was supposed to be something special but really ended up being a whole 2 hours about a lot of nothing where some morons who seemed like a bunch of college drop outs are going to a distant planet and trying to discover life.
Seems to me Ridley Scott had great ideas in mind and just couldn't put it into film the way he likely imagined it.::
Also the woman cutting up her torso to give birth and then stapling it together and running around right after like it didn't hurt much was pretty funny. I don't think that sh*t was even remotely realistic. All that severed tissue and sh*t didn't hurt after the caesarian?
This just seemed like a big budget failure which had a lot of promise but lost the plot quickly.

 

Good post...but I think he's reading a little too far into it (if that's actually possible with a film like this).

First, I think Ridley was joking a little with the 'Jesus' reference...it doesn't really hold up.
Jesus never told the Romans to stop starting wars and conquering people. He pretty much just tried to reform Judaism - hardly a worthy goal for an alien creator who would presumably be concerned with more than just a tiny desert tribe in a tiny part of a very big world.
You really think they were looking down at all the death and destruction being meted out by Chinese dynasties, Mayan human-sacrifice cults, and the Romans stomping all over European pagans and thought "You know what? The real problem with Earth is that the Jews allow money-changers in their temples?"
Seems extremely unlikely.
It also doesn't make sense that he would encourage the very small and only group of people in that area who didn't worship the older pagan gods, who of course, were engineers in this scenario. You'd think an engineer, a pagan god himself, would push them back in that direction, not away from it.

Second, the black-slime doesn't react with David because his body doesn't contain H2O or DNA, the two substances we know it reacts with. No further explanation is needed. It turns the worms into monsters well after the humans have left the room, and presumably didn't do so because of their emotions since they don't have any.

Thirdly, if the Engineer is simply angry at humans for wanting to extend their own lives rather than die in the service of others, wouldn't Janek and crew's kamikaze mission lighten him up a bit? Instead it just makes him even more pissed, causing him to go after Shaw rather than take off straight for the next ship.


Now, I actually hope Ridley Scott resists temptation to make a sequel to 'Prometheus' and move onto what happens when Dr Shaw and David find whatever they're looking for and finally answer the mystery of the original 'Space Jockey' who's ship landed on LV-426, carrying the loads of eggs that were then encountered by the crew of the Nostromo in 'Alien'.
Even thought Ridley always said he wanted to pursue that avenue, the 'Space-Jockey' mystery of what Dallas, Kane and Lambert found in the derelict-ship, Im sure someone else will go ahead and make it anyway. :dunno:

 

Finally watched this film and I have mixed feelings: a critic accurately described it as a big black beautiful mess. It has more plot holes than a swiss cheese. Sure as a scifi fan I just loved the whole enterprise, but the plot was muddy and after raising a lot of questions it ends without giving any answer. To me this was a glorified "Mission To Mars", but less satysfying. I have read all your conjetures, but none of these theories justify the many mistakes in the film. Fassbender was great, his was the only character I cared about in the film. The rest were not fully developed, mere caricatures, scifi stereotypes waiting for their demise. Even the lead actress lacked the Ripley charisma that made us care for her safety. It is an ok movie, but I was expecting more from Ridley Scott. 7/10

 

You mean 'wouldn't that be a sequel' as in 'It would be great'? :scratcher:

 

Yeah, panchy...what are your questions? opcorn:

 

First who the heck are these 'Engineers' aliens? The movie doesn't give an answer and whatever the crew and you guys speculate it is just that: speculation. Second the worms mutated from the black substance and thus became giant 'facehuggers-like' creatures who, like in the Alien films eventually 'give birth' to an Alien speciment. That is fine, but the 'engineer' who was supposed to be the 'spacejockey' from the derelict alien spaceship in the first film, just decided to leave its ship and chase Elizabeth Shaw. That is as big mistake as having Greedo shooting first when the whole world knew Han Solo shoot first! I don't buy the hypothesis that this will happen in 'another ship'. that will require another repetition of the same events in Prometheus with the engineer this time staying in its seat while a chestburster kills him from the inside. Third, what the heck with Guy Pearce in makeup as Weyland doing there? wasn't he a young guy in some clips we watched on the internet, but those scenes were cut for whatever reason? were the remaining crew onf the Prometheus trained as kamikase suicidal pilots in case there was an alien threat to earth? Come on! Really? The first engineer killed himself with that black substance and its dna created life on earth. What about the damn lethal black substance? wasn't it supposed to destroy life on earth too at the same time? The movie builds toward a big revelation that never materialized because instead it choose to turn the scientific exploration into another horror house. Wasn't the other guy killed by the black substance also supposed to comeback from the dead as a killer zombie? so at the end Elizabeth Shaw and Dave leave the planet in an alien spacecraft they were not supposed to have a clue how to navigate. Oh, yeah, Dave said he could! Great script writting! As great as the Madagascar animals being in Africa and suddendly saying, "Hey we can go to Monte Carlo, is just around the corner!" and the next scene they are in Europe. The first ALIEN movie had more brains than this prequel. It felt like George Lucas was producing it.

 

are you Ridley Scott ? your movie was unintelligent bollocks

 

I haven't read all the replies yet (I will) "HOWEVER" I left the theatre disappointed in the film. I found it tedious and boring in spots.

In fact the most disappointing part....Charlize Theron tells Idris Elba to meet her in her room in 10 minutes and dude is left singing a dumb ass song instead of letting us see what would have been the best part of the film...Charlize naked.

Thumbs down for that blown plot point.

:TLC: