what do we think of Broner?

This is what Rios has to say about Broner:

"Gimme a pen and a paper and I'll sign to fight him."

"Adrien Broner is good, he's slick, but he hasn't fought nobody like me. He fought Perez, who was smaller. Ponce De Leon, which I thought he lost, and he was smaller. I'm bigger. Lets do it. If he wants to fight me, I'd love to fight that guy man. I think it'd be a tremendous fight."

"Yeah he like to come forward too. He says he does. But with me he'll put on his running shoes. I think I can beat him, maybe even possibly knock him out."

 

top rank / haymon dispute. wont ever happen. rios has plenty to say about smaller guys

 

So Sayeth the Angst Ridden, Piece of Shit Irishman, w/a Perpetual Hard-On for ALL Things American...AFRICAN American, in Particular...



REED::

 

It's COMICAL that a Roberto Duran Nuthugger DARES to Refer to ANY Other Fighter as a "Total Cunt"...



REED:shit:

 

Well spoken Sir!!!! :bears:

 

That's besides the point. It could have been far worse. The last thing boxing needs now is another Gatti-Gamache. It's going to take a lot more than Hypocoristic Ebonics and faux marriage proposals to dig boxing out of that particular hole.

As I say.....I give Broner a pass if he never makes the weight again. If I see him at 130 again, then....:shit:

 

It's not just about missing the weight...it's the lack of effort and professionalism. He didn't even try.

 

I don't think he missed weight on purpose. What he didn't do is try to make weight after missing it. Basically said...I'm 3.5 lbs over and I'm not running or trying to sweat it off.

Sounds to me like the dispute the next day was whether he could weigh an additional 10 pounds over or an additional 7 pounds over.

Like X said, it wasn't like Gatti-Gamache where Gatti was 10-15 pounds heavier. Escobedo at least fought at lightweight.

I do agree it was unprofessional and Broner and his team should have made the call or negiotiated to make the fight a lightweight fight days before the fight. Would have saved Escobedo the stress of losing that last 5 pounds.

With all that said...does anyone really think the outcome would have been different at any weight? I don't. I think we need to separate the issues.

1). Broner's blatant unprofessionalism

2). How the fight was going to play out. Escobedo was going to get that beatdown regardless.

 

in other news, joan guzman actually made weight (140) for his fight on saturday and won via first round KO. looked kinda heavy though, even at 140.

 

What is remotely cunty about Duran? He appears to be a very nice guy outside the ring.

Broner just seems like a cunt, and the weight cheating only amplifies that feeling.

Duran was a beast in the ring, but outside the ring, I just don't see him being remotely cunty, never beat up women, never tried to cheat his opponent, according to almost all accounts, he's a pretty cool guy :dunno:

 

You're completely and utterly missing the point.

If Escobedo weighed a pound more than Broner in the ring, Broner would still have a BIG advantage, and that's not weakening himself the extra 3.5 pounds that his opponent did. It shouldn't need explaining.

 

i guess it depends on whether you consider mayorga a cunt or not when he talks all kinda shit about his opponents wives

 

Smack talk is just that, smack talk. Cheating your opponent with not making weight is actually being low, and a cunt.

You know this too Neil.

 

maybe so but i consider broner, duran and mayorga to all be cunts

 

::::Broner might be a cunt, but at least he has never quit in the most cowardly fashion imaginable. If Broner needs to take a shit and walks out of the ring, then he will enter Duran cunt territory. Most fighters have more dignity than that though.

 

Duran cheated in fights as well.

 

Duran never did not cheat in his fights when he wasn't quitting in the most cowardly fashion conceivable.

 

How's that?

 

:l1::l1::l1::l1:

 

I've never seen Duran cheat in a fight, especially to the extent of making his opponent cut more weight than him.

 

Your wrong, X. Soulja Boy is the worst.

Be that as it may, I definitely think Broner is for real. He could dominate 140 right now.

Broner vs Gamboa will probably happen sometime within 2 years.

 

Truth be told the greatest disadvantage Escobedo had was in skill. he could have weighed 150 and it wouldn't have mattered.

Broner was a dick in how he went about it but let's not kid ourselves and pretend Escobedo had a chance. he couldn't have dealt with Broner's speed no matter what the weight was.

 

Major revisionist history going on here...unless you're talking about the Duran post boxing career.

 

I do agree with you, Escobedo could have weighed in at whatever weight he wanted and been beaten easily. Escobedo is simply not very good, he's not even close to being an elite fighter.

But again, that's missing the point, it's the principle of the matter. If they were more evenly matched, like say... Ponce De Leon, it would create an uneven playing field and give Broner a pretty big advantage that he didn't have to weaken himself the extra 3.5 pounds that his opponent did.

Just like the Chico Vs Castillo rematch and Funeka Vs Guzman rematch.

 

Mexican, would you say Chico or Castillo has the bigger c0ck?

 

Right now you'd have to say Castillo, but back when Chico was still alive and stuff, I reckon Chico :kidcool:

What do you think?

 

I like how many of you are so sure that the weight wouldn't have mattered. Pacquiao has at least one loss on his record because making weight can matter. A lot.

 

.. And he has several wins on his record for the same reason

 

Not sure if the wins were down to weight alone, but it certainly played a part. Weight-Cheating is like alcohol and tobacco when it comes to the war on drugs.....when it comes to cheating in boxing, weight-cheating seems to comfortably fly under the radar, time and time again. Here we have an insignificant guy like Enzo Maccarinelli, a guy who is poking around the nether regions of 200lbs, who gets banned for 6 months because he took some junk supplement, and he is held out as a cheat of cheats. :shit:

 

you are probably right