Hagler vs Pavlik

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  1. Destruction and Mayhem

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    Hagler wins...but how?
     
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    By one sided ass whuppin, that's how.
     
  3. Destruction and Mayhem

    Destruction and Mayhem PHASE ----3

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    Points or stoppage?
     
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    If it's early-to-mid 80's Hagler I'll say stoppage. Hagler was heavier handed than Martinez, and 130 yr old Hopkins. Like the Hagler that fucked up Tony Sibson. Yeah, I'd take that version to stop Pavlik in 10 or 11.
     
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    Hagler beats the shit out of Pavlik
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Hagler would punch him allot in the face and body
     
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    By mega-death, furious punching hospital job. Pavlik ends up on a gurney here.

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    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Hagler too strong and too skilled.

    And I don't see Pavlik's right hand having much effect.

    KO 6
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    The correct spelling on fightbeat is 'to strong to skilled':nono:
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    If it's 12 rounds I think Pavlik sees it out. Over 15, his chances drop to 50/50
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    Hagler would ruin Pavlik. Pavlik would come straight in and get countered to death by Hagler. Prime Hagler isn't a 400 year old Hopkins...Pavlik is stopped somewhere around rounds 6 or 7.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    True, but at the same time he's about 2 divisions smaller & that counts.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    In fact, i take that back. It doesn't count. Hagler almost certainly stops him.
     
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    broadwayjoe Undisputed Champion

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    Dunno man...I don't see why we have to go by today's bullshit weigh-in rules when comparing fighters from different times. If Pavlik actually had to be a middleweight when fighting Hagler, he would be destroyed. If we go by today's rules...the extra size might help Pavlik a bit, but he's still getting beaten up and stopped. The gulf in class is too much for extra weight to matter much.

    What's funny is that if it's Hagler vs Pavlik, the extra weight gained from today's rules is seen as an advantage as it's a middleweight against a light-heavy. But if it was Michael Spinks vs Pavlik, some of the responses would be something like, "not fair, Pavlik is a blown up middleweight".:lol:
     
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    They're would be a funeral in Youngstown if Pavlik fought Spinks.
     
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    ko 1 what else
     
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    yeah whatelse bich? him would be taking out on a stretcher i think in my mind
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    kely pvlik is the can beat guy r beb beten by ne fighter good chin good pwer no hart
     
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    yu bow don to pvlik reel lif i tihnk in my mind bich
     
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    I think Pavlik could take Hagler.

    Marvin looked good vs Sibson and Antuofermo...short white bums with lead feet, paper skin, rudimentary skills, no real huge power.

    Marvin was smallish dude himself, 5'9" or so.

    Kelly needs to stick his jab, and look for heavy single rights through that lefty guard.

    Interesting matchup, its possible Hagler would be too slick, but Hopkins was a 6'2" MW who could go all the way to 175, plus 166 was never Kellys territory really.

    160...close fight.
     
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    1-2 rounds, tops. Maybe even earlier. In fact Hagler might not show up.
     
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    I think Hagler lands A LOT on Pavlik, as he did on Sibson and many, many others
     
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    He does, but he's reaching a bit more and Kelly does have power. Marvin could be hit. Of course, its Marvin all the way unless Kelly land something big. Truthfully, needing a KO is the worst way to go in vs Hagler. Cal-Slappy has the method, Pavlik does not.
     

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