Jon Jones Calls Chael Sonnen a Racist, Disappointed with White

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  1. Orion

    Orion Not Ordinary

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    Jones is in damage control mode right now. He's still trying to deal with the media backlash he's getting from the UFC 151 debacle. I expect Jones to make many more silly and foolish statements over the next few weeks or so.
     
  2. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think Jones is saying the right things. My favorite was Jones' quote about the other fighters on the card blaming him for losing a pay day. "I'm not the one telling you you're not good enough for PPV"
     
  3. Anthony

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    From MMAMania.com


    It seems Jon Jones may have upset another one of his (ex) colleagues.

    Former Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) light heavyweight champion and now UFC Hall of Famer, Tito Ortiz, says he is offended that Jones, a person he stood up for when no one else did, had some not-so-nice things to say about him in an recent interview.

    In the sit down with MMA Fighting's Ariel Helwani, ‘Bones' had this to say when asked what he felt like after he was blasted by UFC President Dana White for his decision to not accept the late-replacement fight against Chael Sonnen:

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    "I do everything they ask me to do, I really do, and you know, it really hurt man, it hurt to be on the different spectrum, to be compared to Tito Ortiz. I don't complain about money, I don't complain about anything, I do what I'm told."​
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    That didn't sit too well with the recently retired Ortiz, who told MMA Weekly that he spent his entire career putting 'his life on the line' and taking bad raps on his image so that fighters like Jon can make the type of money and sign the type of contracts they have today.

    Those comments, after the jump:

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    "Well check it out, the situation happened with 151. He was supposed to fight Chael. Well, actually he was supposed to fight Dan Henderson. He gets hurt the week before the fight, then they say you're going to fight Chael and he said no way and caught a bunch of flack from it. All of the fighters said he isn't a true fighter and nobody has ever done this before and, it's crazy, I thought it was crazy. And I stood up for the kid. I like Jon Jones. I think he's a great champion. I think he's a great guy. I've hung out with him in Vegas and I really took a liking to the kid because he's, I think he's the next best great thing. Then, all of a sudden, I heard an interview from him saying, 'People need to stop comparing me to Tito Ortiz because I don't talk about money.' And, I took a very heartfelt, that was like a stab to my back. I stood up for you when no one else did, I stood up for you and you turn around and say something like that? You have to understand, when you drive around in your Bentley, or, I don't know if he even has it anymore since he wrecked it into a tree, but when you're driving around in your Bentley, you have to understand, I'm the person who put my life on the line and my career and my image and my name on the line to take everything I did to battle for the type of contracts that you have, for the money that you're making. If it wasn't for the things I've battled for and I took all the bad image because of it, you'd be driving around in a Toyota right now. Fighters need to understand and respect guys on my level that I took a lot of flack to negotiate and battle for what I believed in. It wasn't a factor of talking about money, it was a factor of what I believed I was worth. That's been my whole career. I was going out and I was doing the main press. I was going out and doing the reality shows and doing the wrestling stuff and always being a person outside of the box of not just being a fighter and I was believing what I was worth and I was trying to raise the bar for all fighters and I think I've done that. And for him to say the things he's saying that, 'I'm not like Tito Ortiz because I don't talk about money.' Don't disrespect me like that man, I've had your back when no one else did. That's all I said and I was just disappointed. I was very, very disappointed with Jon. Maybe he is just young, maybe he is just 22 or 23-years old and he doesn't know, maybe the stardom is getting to his head. Like I said, I took a liking to Jon Jones, but I was just disappointed in that interview I read. That's all I got to say about that."​
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    No one can argue the fact that Ortiz is a true pioneer of the sport of mixed martial arts (MMA) and his well-documented battles with Dana White perhaps did set some kind of precedent as to how fighters and their management teams negotiate when it comes to money.

    Whether or not Jones made that comment with malicious intent, is open for interpretation.

    Like it or not, Jones will eventually be compared to Tito, as the young phenom is closing in on the record for consecutive 205-pound title defenses. Ortiz defended his title five consecutive times before forking it over to Randy Couture in 2003. Jones is currently at three defenses and is set to attempt to defend his title for the fourth straight time as he takes on Vitor Belfort at UFC 152 on Sept. 22, 2012 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

    In the end, only Jones knows whether or not he meant the comment to be offensive or not. However, if Tito, or other people, for that matter are upset with him, he probably won't lose any sleep over it, because after all, he isn't in the fight game to be loved.​
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  4. Orion

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    In the end, he ducked Chael in order to prove a point and it bit him in his ass. I hope he learns from this, but something tells me he won't. He's made a shit ton of stupid statements since this happened.
     
  5. *Z*

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    He didn't duck Sonnen, that's just ridiculous. Sonnen deserves nothing and it would have been a shit card with a shit main event. As a fan, that's not acceptable. It's the UFC's fault the card sucked so bad it depended on one fight. Jones was ready to fight Henderson, he did his part.
     
  6. mikE

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    You may want to remember this post if the UFC begins a downward trend. Although I agree with a lot of what you are saying here, I just don't think you can get rid of Dana until a substantial downward trend is demonstrated. The guy bleeds UFC and while a new face might bring some advantages, Dana is so strong is so many areas that it will be hard to get a net gain from a change. Plus, Dana is smart enough to just adapt and implement the changes you suggest if he (or the Zuffas) believe he should.

    Dana and Rogan are two guys I just wouldn't fuck with in the UFC (if I was a Zuffa) because I wouldn't want them going anywhere else.
     
  7. REEDsART

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    You See what U WANT To See, Dude...

    Dan Henderson is the 1 who BACKED OUT of UFC 151...How Was that Jones' Fault???...Henderson Knew as Much as 3 Weeks PRIOR, that he was Injured, yet Jones Still Only has "Himself" to Blame???...Is it Also Merely a "Coincidene" that Sonnen was IN Camp w/Henderson AND he was the Guy UFC Wanted Jones to Face???...

    From TOP (Dana White) to BOTTOM (the Fighters), this Whole Situation is DIRTY...Yes, Jones DESERVES Some Blame, but to Say he Only has Himself to Blame is OFFBASE...



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    It's Perplexing to REED that MORE People Don't See it This Way....



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  9. Anthony

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    who said this?
     
  10. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    Uhhhh, The Poster REED was RESPONDING to...




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  11. *Z*

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    agREED.
     
  12. mikE

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    The fact that we agree with each other on this point means we both probably need to reevaluate our position, haha.
     
  13. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I respect jones more for turning down a fight with Sonnen. would have been a worthless fight, and a waste of everybody times.
     
  14. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    The only people who cared to see that fight are Sonnen fans wanting their boy to get a gift title shot.
     
  15. Anthony

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    That poster said no such thing
     
  16. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Get your eyes checked, it's right in the quote REED was responding to. :lol:
     
  17. Anthony

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    Where does it say that Jones should get all the blame? it says is that Jones brought the heat he is getting on himself. No where did he say that only jones is to blame.
     
  18. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Right here.
     
  19. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    I'm not saying to fire him. I just think he should take a less public role. He shouldn't be the public face or voice of the UFC.
     
  20. REEDsART

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    You're Wasting your Time, Bro...

    Anthony is the Quintessential SEMANTIC WHORE who will INVENT Some Trivial Ass Point to Latch Onto, just to AVOID Having to ADMIT he's Wrong...

    AGAIN...

    Yeah Jones is getting a lot of heat but he's only got himself to blame.


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  21. REEDsART

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    Really???...
    Yeah Jones is getting a lot of heat but he's only got himself to blame.

    Game.

    Set.

    Match.




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  22. jarhead

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    yeah, I think Anthony is regretting this one lol




    But I have said this before and I will say it again. You don't have your LH Champion spend his entire training camp working on a game plan, bringing in similar fighters to spar with and then change who he is fighting at the last minute. I don't give a fuck if its one week, two weeks or one month. Its unprofessional. They have spread themselves too thin and Dana knows it. They should have had a Co-Main Event that they just move forward. But they had a shit card underneath and they got burnt. I really don't think Jon Jones came off looking bad at all in this. In fact, I really believe in many hard core fans eyes he was applauded. Of course, there will be billy bob and skeeter that think he's a pussy. Oh well. And to Boss, do you really think other organizations like Dream and Bellator wouldn't throw millions at Jones to come fight? He would be very similar to Fedor in that respect. With the older guard moving out, Dana needs Jones and he knows it.
     
  23. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Yep, Jon Jones would make Bellator a huge player over night and Jones could make a fortune. Jones is really unlike any other UFC champion. He's young and really undefeated. And he hasn't been challenged by the top guys in the world. The Fedor references are dead-on.
     
  24. Anthony

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    Yeah, he only has himself to blame for a lot of the heat HE is getting. That doesnt say that he deserves ALL in the situation. And Jones isnt getting all the heat. English is Hard right?
     
  25. Anthony

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    That doesnt say that Jones should be getting all the heat in the situation Z. It says that jones is getting a lot of it. If the statement said "Jones is getting all the heat but he's only got himself to blame", then you would have a point. He used "a lot" That doest not mean all. You arent a stupid man Z. Admit you read it wrong and move along.
     
  26. Anthony

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    Not at all. I can fucking read.
     
  27. REEDsART

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    Of Course he Is, but his Head is Stuck Sooooo Faaaaar Up his OWN Ass, What Used to Be Ear Wax has Been Replaced w/FECAL Matter...Unequivocally, TKO Blamed Jon Jones for ALL of the Heat he's PERSONALLY Receiving...Whether the Amount of Heat Jones is Receiving is "A Lot", "A Little", or an "Average Amount", TKO Said Jones "Only Has HIMSELF to Blame" for the Amount of Heat he's Receiving...

    Even Knowing BEFOREHAND that he's a SEMANTIC WHORE, Anthony's Reaching WORSE than Ever on this 1...He's LITERALLY Juxtaposed TKO's Typewritten Words, to Suit HIS OWN Needs...Being WRONG Obviously PAINS Him, to Go to These Lengths...

    But Whatever, it's Par for the Course, Given the Source...

    Spot on w/the Remainder of your Post, as Usual...

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    Yeah, It's Uncanny how U & REED Never EVER Agree on a Single Boxing Point, yet Usually Have the Same POV in Regards to MMA....

    If You're a "Contrarian Bullshit Artist", WHAT Does that Make REED???



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  29. Anthony

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    Yes, Jones is responsible for the heat he is getting. But jones isnt receiving ALL the heat. Only you think he is, because you are so defensive in your own life, you attribute that to your heroes.

    By basic definition of the English language, which you seem to have trouble with, "a lot" does not mean ALL. And TKO said that he is receiving a lot. Now if TKO said he is receiving ALL the attention, you would have a point. But you automatically just assumed that is what TKO meant because you are so blind with Love and Race that you cant see passed his balls and color.

    Again:

    TKO said that Jones is receiving "a lot" of the attention. You show me one time and in what language that "a lot" means the same as all.

    I also what to add that i dont believe TKO is even talking about ducking the fight in general when he talks about Jones getting deserved heat. I think TKO was talking about how jones has been acting after he ducked the fight. But i wont speak for TKO. That is just my opinion. But go on any other MMA board and you will see Dana getting major heat for this and Henderson getting major heat. Everyone is getting it.
     
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    Very similar to how you (REED) think that when i say Jones ducked Chael, that i am saying that he is afraid of Chael. You go on and on about it, because you cant understand anyone else's point of view but your owns. The fact that i said Jones was not afraid of Chael in my initial argument about the duck. To you that didnt matter. To you i was calling Jones a pussy and scared. Another example of you not comprehending the English language.
     

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