UFC prez says Machida-Henderson likely

As everyone seems to be in love with Weidman right now and I certainly think he has potential, he fights at 185lbs, has no credentials at 205 and only 9 fights at 185. I think its great that he's confident in his abilities but I think he needs to slow down a little and fight a few more top fighters. He's looked great so far, but he's still pretty early in his career to be taking on established P4P top fighters.

 

I agree. Just showing Anthony that Chael wasn't the only one willing to step up and fight Jones on short notice.

 

There is no winning with you. Chael hasn't even fought at 205 in the UFC.

 

What EXACTLY has Sonnen DONE in UFC @ 205 Though????...& Just So We're Clear, Talking Shit DOESN'T Count...






REED:nono:

 

The fight of his life = Stopped in 2

You're bording on mikE status right now. Just quit while you have a shred of dignity.

 

Silva has 4 losses.

 

The UFC? You mean that place where Sonnen has never fought at 205?

 

Nobody agrees with you. You have no argument.

 

I agree that Sonnen didn't deserve a shot at Jones. But I also think Sonnen was 1000 times more deserving than Belfort.

 

I don't think being the best guy available at weight equates to "deserving" the title shot. Personally I think a guy needs to win a fight at a particular weight before challenging for THAT division's title. This is what absolutely kills me about freaking Vitor Belfort getting shots at both Silva and Jones within 2 years. WTF?!?!?!

The exceptions would champs from other divisions moving up or down.

You keep pointing to the demand for Silva-Jones as evidence that Sonnen , since he did extremely well against Silva, should be on the list of deserving opponents. There is a huge difference.

First, Silva is the best P4P fighter in the world and despite struggling against Sonnen, finished him fairly twice. Second, Silva has won fights at 205 in the UFC with one coming against a ranked guy.

But really this discussion doesn't matter because a far less deserving opponent got the fight. So 'deserving' a shot really means nothing. The bottom line is that Sonnen had the credentials and recent resume to fight Jones WAY before Belfort.

 

This is really beating a dead horse but my only issue with all of that is that I agree Sonnen wasn't necessarily most deserving, nor was Vitor by any means, however the UFC was in a pinch, initially offered the Jones fight to two fighters that were deserving, Machida and Shogun and neither of them were ready so Sonnen said he would take the fight. I can't knock Sonnen for stepping up and I think it was a dick move for Jones not to take it simply out of spite to prove a point that Sonnen wasn't going to talk his way into a title fight. Jones could have shut him up in the cage and came out the hero for doing it.

 

this 'he doesn't deserve a shot' argument doesn't really work. ufc, like boxing is a sport w/o a true ranking system. i mean, look at how many times a guy like rocky juarez received title shots.

bj penn got a title shot vs. matt hughes right after losing to gsp because gsp was sidelined. i dont recall anyone complaining then.

bottom line is that sonnen is a marquee name and people would pay to see him fight jon jones. no one gives a shit about jones vs. machida 2 or other guys he's already beaten at light heavy.

 

I'm not upset and this was never a discussion about who deserves it more between Belfort and Sonnen. I'm just amazed at your level of nuthuggery when it comes to Sonnen. Belfort certainly didn't deserve a shot and neither does Sonnen. Nether of them would have even been considered if they didn't need a late replacement.

 

This discussion has nothing to do with what the UFC does or doesn't do, many undeserving guys have been given title shots. The problem is that Anthony is saying Sonnen earned the shot. In what fucking world does a guy coming off a loss at a lower weight deserve a title shot a division up? Certainly not earth.

 

Mars?:dunno:

 

Waiting for the rover to confirm.

 

i'm not sure if sonnen 'deserved' a shot, but i don't think he was any less deserving than machida or anyone else besides hendo at light heavy. sorry, knocking out ryan bader doesn't warrant a title shot in my opinion. neither does knocking out akiyama (in belfort's case) at middleweight.

 

Nobody is saying Belfort deserved anything. Machida is a career LHW, with wins over top guys. He may have only beaten Bader recently, but one win at LHW is better than never having fought there.

Let's see if Sonnen can actually get a couple wins at 205.

 

This has nothing to do with anything. Jones didn't accept the fight and Sonnen has a fight scheduled with Forrest. Let's see if he can fight his way to a title shot.