MUSIC: the official thread.

Gilmour was a better guitarist than Barrett, without question, but Syd was more interesting. An innovator of sound.

 

Let me settle this before it escalates - everything Zepplin & Floyd is all pish. :truce: The lot of it.

 

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Aye, they're awright

 

I know everything and the guy in my avatar had so much soul

 

what's your favorite song of theirs? :laugh11:

Let's just make up a whole band

 

The Who definately piss on Zeppelin.
I think even Townshend jokingly admitted to that not long ago - but you could tell he meant it.

 

you mean he was loaded and fell on his guitar

 

Cant say Im much of a fan of The who either, but I definitely agree with Townsend.

 

Holy shit that is retarded

The Who have a handful of semi-decent songs

Other than that, it is Pete Townshend's nerd rage expressed through the howling mouth of his empty-headed, pretty-boy alter ego. He wrote pissy songs and had the man he physically wished he could be shout them.

I call that a rim job... the best I ever had.... THE BEST I EVER HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD

 

He was an inventive fellow, with all the extended techniques an' all. A very unique songwriter also.

 

The Who are from Bush, so I gots love fo' dem

 

there were people doing weird shit with guitars long before him

what was his technique? putting a slide way up high over the pickups? that had been done before and is basically useless other than as a sound effect that quickly gets old when one is not totally zonked out on acid

 

why was he a unique songwriter? because he did shitty versions of Beatles/Kinks with preposterous lyrics like "I'VE GOT A BIKE, YOU CAN RIDE IT IF YOU LIKE..."

Slice, I can understand your respect for Cobain... he had a way with a melody

Syd Barett was a screwball who made silly noise

 

Any band who writes a straight faced double album rock opera about a sexually abused pinball player is fucking awful. Still awesome compared to Led Zeppelin.

 

Now you're just arguing for the sake of it.
One true sign of a truly great band is when that band defies categorisation, that is, when for every "well, they sound like this reggae-influenced heavy metal band playing avantgarde bebop" remark you can have yourself a "funny, I thought they were this raw punk outfit doing acoustic folk" counterproposal.
And I don't mean just "being diverse", I mean "being different".
Blazing off every colour of the spectrum. That sort of thing.

Few bands were as good at that as The Who.
The first band to lock onto something different, that is, the music-world letting the artists change and evolve into something completely different.
No two records sounds the same: garage rockers, surrealistic artists, psychedelic visionaries, art-rockers, roots-rockers, synth-poppers, The Who were all that and more...but at the end of the day, and if cdogg can get his too-cool-for-school-jazz-wanker-head around it, you cannot argue this simple point: they were and are, the quintessential rock'n'roll band.

To summarize my feelings about the band - I like rock'n'roll music for 'my body'. I also happen to like intelligent music for 'my mind'. And I happen to think that these two things are not at all incompatible (provided they're being made compatible in the proper way).
And finally, I think no other band in pop music history has been able to make the two compatible in a way more proper than The Who did it in their glory days, from 1965 to 1973.

 

Seems like a good time to revisit steve_dave's team building exercise.opcorn: John Lennon's stuff with The Beatles? Any dissenters?

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Check out this awesome video of Creed, they shred.

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This is a pile of shite!

The Who defy categorization? None of the records sound the same?? My god, what madness

As long as Roger Daltrey futilely struggles to relate his jockish reality with Townshend's bird-chested uglyman worldview, as long as Keith Moon bashes the drums in a unique but clearly ubiquitous manner, The Who are easily spotted and their material easily repetitive.

The Who are fucking miles behind several contemporaries, namely The Rolling Stones and The Beatles, from their own country, never mind taking into account America. They may be the quintessential grandiose English rock band long on pretentious concepts ("Tommy", "Quadrophenia") but to my American ears (where rock and roll was invented) they are just too English for their own good.

If any English band could lay claim to "Quintessential Rock and Roll band", it is the Rolling Stones by fucking miles... Keith Richards never needed to write about a Keller-esque pinball wizard... "Beggar's Banquet", "Let It Bleed", "Sticky Fingers", and especially the glorious "Exile On Main St.", ANY ONE of those albums (never mind all four of 'em) shits on any Who record ever made or any mythological record containing all of the highlights of any Who record ever made... The Rolling Stones mailing it in from 1973 onward were more fucking compelling and great than The Who EVER were

 

No dissent here... Love those songs... His solo career, on the other hand...

 

I'm surprised you like the rolling stones cdogg. Such generic garbage.

I'm so hot for her, she's so cold! I want to punch mick jagger in the face when I hear that song.

 

I'm surprised you boil them down to one of their worst toss-off songs 8 years after their prime ended:dunno:

I don't see how someone could listen to any of the 4 albums I mentioned in that post and not love The Stones and Keith Richards... there's no way to describe that music other than that it is so, so good

I don't get how someone could listen to "Can't You Hear Me Knocking?" and not practically get wood from it, that's how terrific it is

 

We are worlds apart in our music taste. There are maybe 3-4 songs they have ever written than I even remotely like.

I don't care if they were past their primes, they write shit music they get held accountable.

 

I find blues based rock unbearable as a rule but the Stones were downright great. A healthy amount of stimulant intake keeps even blues rock sharp.

 

"Held accountable = indicted for their entire catalog of several dozen records and hundreds of songs because I don't like one or two

basing The Stones off of "She's So Cold" is like hearing "Yellow Submarine" and deciding "The Beatles suck"

And, like them or not, the idea of The Stones as "generic rock" is one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard. Completely unique, original sound... they took the music they loved (American blues and country music) and did it in their own way.. the fact that it then caused 100s of piss poor imitators (such as the Stones/Zep hybrid-without-the-actual-good-songs Aerosmith, for example) to prop up in their wake does not suddenly make THEM generic. Without them, those piss-poor imitators who completely missed the point and turned their influence into shitty music, there would be no such thing as this category (Generic Rock) that you are attempting to shoehorn them into.

There is nothing generic about the Rolling Stones at their peak of creativity in the late 60s and early 70s, absolutely NOTHING

 

The Stones were more interested in actual blues music as played by actual black guys than ANY of the wanking English "Blues Masters" of the era... Cream, John Mayall, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, Jeff Beck Group, that shit is fucking DOA to my ears. They completely missed the point and took at as a means to showoff how hard they had practiced their Pentatonic scales... Un-listenable shit. For the Stones, a guitar solo (or any solo, really) was generally a compliment to the song and was typically brief. They were far more interested in groove, mood and song quality than any of those wankers. Those guys helped kill off blues music for good and turn it into the middle-aged white guy Amos n' Andy horseshit it has been for the last 30 years... The Stones GOT it, the rest were wankers

 

So angry cDogg. Watch the video I posted of the most awesome band ever, Creed. It will brighten your day.

 

You don't actually like them, I refuse to believe that::

 

Just watch it then you will know. ::

 

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I love that video. :laugh11: