UFC 154: St-Pierre vs. Condit

Agreed. Sure GSP took some damage, but I think he was in control almost every step of the way. Pretty 1 sided fight overall.

 

Just a few thoughts....

Patrick Cote should be embarassed.

Hendricks is legit, I would love to see him fight Diaz or Condit.

GSP is so far above the rest of this division. I used to not really care about the whole GSP/Silva fight. But in a pure entertainment value, i can't see how you can't make the fight. I would bill it as no titles, no division, just the best fighting the best. This fight would be huge. Of course, I would put it at a catch weight so Anderson doesn't walk in weighing 225

 

yea, i'd love to see diaz vs. hendricks. diaz has a sturdy chin and recuperates well when he gets knocked down. hendricks would also have to utilize his takedowns if he can't keep up w/ nick's swarming punches. that and i think diaz's ground game is a bit overrated, so i can actually see hendricks outworking/outpowering him on the ground.

 

great minds think alike , I think this match up could be an easy fight of the night winner.

 

i was looking at some of the picks, if Trpl went with his gut and picked GSP, he would have aced that shit. And yes Trplsec, you ain't fooling anyone. You know you favored GSP just like everyone else, just wanted to go rogue and pick the upset.

 

Lots of bleeding on this card. Overall I think it was a entertaining card. GSP beats everyone at 170 for a long time. Hendricks is not well rounded enough. He can punch but his wrestling is not working on GSP.

 

look at hendricks' fights when he didn't knock guys out. he barely got past pierce (who's a very hard guy to beat) and tj grant (another tough but non-elite guy), and got outworked by rick story. even vs. koschek, he landed some hard shots, but i thought he got outworked on the ground and even outboxed at times.

i think he's still ways better than paul daley, so a fight vs. diaz could be very exciting. he'd get worked vs. GSP though.

 

Hendricks might be able to beat Diaz because Diaz isn't that great against good wrestlers. I wonder how good Hendricks' sub defense is because he's going to put Diaz on his back. He better have good stamina too, Diaz will be going hard for 5 rounds. assuming this is a 5 rounder.

 

GSP never saw that kick, it was an awesome kick out of nowhere.

 

Also, GSP is one of the most classy guys in MMA.

 

9 months. Not a big deal.

 

pretty standard for champions to be off that long. Lets also not forget it was Condit's choice to wait for GSP.

 

:: at long layoff. No it's not a long layoff. Like Z said, it's pretty standard for champs to have that size gap between fights.

In fact, the gap between Condit's previous 2 fights were 8 months and 7 months. The difference is negligible.

18 months is a long layoff, 9 months isn't.

 

So 9 months is quite a bit more than 8 months right? After 8 months you're fine, but after 9 months you'll be really rusty? ::

 

so 7 or 8 months is not long, but 9 is, sooooo what about 42 weeks?

 

I wonder if Anthony will agree that 18 months is twice as long as 9 months? :tick:

 

Who said Nick Diaz has an overrated ground game? For my money, he has the best closed guard in the world at 170 pounds. And yes, that would include Maia.

Aside from the Haley's Comet-rare gogoplata win against Gomi, I don't know that I've seen anyone pull off as many armbar and kimura wins from his back as Nick Diaz. Honestly, name another top level fighter that you've seen pull off two kimura wins from their closed guard. Hell, even in loses against Sanchez and Sherk, Diaz was extremely active off his back.

It's really the only reason I like his chances more than Condit's against GSP. Trying to beat Diaz via ground-and-pound from his closed guard is a dangerous situation. I don't know if he'd be able to catch GSP but it's far more likely than Condit doing it.

 

Yep. Unfortunately fans are very conditioned to think top control equals domination. At the end of the day it was clear Condit was doing significant damage from the bottom. GSP's face didn't get jacked like that just because of one head kick.

 

So wait, GSP's 18 months was a longer layoff than Condit's 9???? When the fuck did this happen?

 

GSP didnt look so hot in his last outing vs. shields. plus, not only was he coming off a long layoff, but he was recovering from a surgery. condit, 9 months or whatever, was still coming off of a significant win and some momentum.

 

Now knock that crap off Joony! Dtt on't go bringing reason and logic into this thread. :nono: It was just fine before you wanted to butt in!

 

The only metric that matters in mma or boxing is figuring out who you would rather be.
That is, or should be, all that the factors you are supposed to consider in scoring a fight are designed to accomplish.
(I suppose there might be a very slight exception for giving aggression a boost since it is a sport, after all.)

Being on top gives a fighter certain advantages over the guy on the bottom, but all that matters is who is putting more of the hurt on who.

That's the long way of saying, I agree, haha.

 

700K PPV buys. GSP is still a huge draw. In comparison, Silva-Bonnaroid did 400K.

 

700k for GSP return against the interim champ is pretty dissapointing imo. Especially considering if Silva did 400k in a showcase vs Bonnar