UFC on Fox Dec 8th

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  1. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Just my opinion, but I don't think Henderson's stand-up is anywhere close to 'good enough' to beat Diaz in a standing battle.

    Nate's boxing has jumped in leaps and bounds. He made decent strikers like Marcus Davis, Gomi and Cerrone look below average. But what he did to Jim Miller, who is tough as nails, is on a different level completely.

    Henderson cannot win this fight unless he utilizes a ton of leg kicks and take downs. He can't out-strike Nate. He can't submit Nate. And after watching Nate recover amazingly quick after being dropped by monster-punching Melvin Guillard, I don't think Henderson can knock him out.

    Nate's Achilles' heal has always been wrestling. Guida, Stevenson, Kim and MacDonald all beat Nate with take downs and ground control. That is the ticket for Henderson as well.


    By the way, I always get a kick out of people describing Nick and Nate's punching as "Pitty Pat" yet they keep busting guys up and hurting or stopping them.
     
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    It's a fair point, regarding wrestling. As competent as the Diaz brothers are on the ground, I'd say wrestling is both their Achilles' heel. They can both be taken down surprisingly easily, considering how good they are overall.

    And yeah, Henderson has solid wrestling, so that alone makes it compelling, but I still say Diaz gives him a beating :kidcool:
     
  3. Trplsec

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    So Nate weighed-in at 155.6 and had 2 hours to lose the 6/10 of a pound. So he goes and takes a dump and re-weighs at 155.2. Now he's got an hour and 15 minutes to drop the .2 or it's not a title fight.

    In looking at Nate's reaction at the initial weigh-in, I don't think he had clue that the rules were different for title fights and he couldn't be over 155 at all. He looked pissed when Dana explained it to him.

    Also, BJ Penn looked absolutely the same, in terms of definition, as he always has. Meanwhile MacDonald looks like an animal. I'm not sure about BJ's chances so much now.
     
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    Yeah, he definitely had that look that he had no clue about having to be at 155 on the dot or under. But he made it so that's all that matters lol. McDonald did look like a beast. If BJ has lost a step, we will soon see.
     
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    You know I hate a fighter if I'm rooting for a Diaz brother over him.

    TFK
     
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    why do you hate Henderson?
     
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    Because he got 2 gift victories over TFK's boy Frankie Edgar.

    Despite that, I'm shocked he hates Henderson enough to root for Nate Diaz.
     
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    He is a also a short, strange looking bug figure.
     
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    He's definitely strange looking, and there's something vaguely womanly about his face.
     
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    So seriously, MWS, how many beers would it take you to hit that shit?:dunno:
     
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    :lol:

    Hmm, I'd probably cockchoke it after 10 or so, but I think it would take at least 25 for me to put my penis in it's anus/vagina :dunno:
     
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    If you just let the he-she suck the cock I think you're safe. I think its considered "non-gay" in most states....
     
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    Nah, a Blowjob from a DUDE is Gay...Hell, Even a HANDJOB from a Dude is GAY...If a DUDE is Touching your Schlong, it'd BETTER Be in a HEALTHCARE/HOSPITAL/Legitimate MEDICAL VISIT Capacity...

    Otherwise, U're a Fag...




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    I had a drill instructor tell our platoon in bootcamp, "You can eat a thousand pussies in your lifetime, but if you suck one dick....you're a faggot forever." That is some true ass shit right there, man. Think about it. If you were at a bar and you are drinking a beer with some friends. One of your boys tells you some shit like "yeah, I hooked up with a dude once back in college, but I'm totally straight now". You will never believe that dude ain't gay lol
     
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  19. Buddy Rydell

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    Goddamn, Cruickshank looked good in there. He threw a back roundhouse that went OVER the guy's head. And that was a NICE finish. Martinez is gonna have one fuck of a headache for the rest of the night.
     
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    Prelims on Fox, fuckers!
     
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    Ramsey Nijem vs Joe Proctor up next.
     
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    Rd 1. Dan "The Oaf" Miragliotta officiating. Proctor is twisting that neck tight and they're still dry. Nijem seems ok. Nijem gets free and lands some punches and knees. Nijem lands a jumping crane kick to the body and drops Proctor. Proctor's in bad trouble. Ramsey takes his back and now mounts him. Proctor bloody. Proctor with an arm-in guillotine. Proctor scrambles. Nijem is hurt bad. Dropped and hurt by a left hook right hand combo, and now he's on the bottom. Proctor turned that around.

    Rd 2. They start trading again. Ramsey using the jab and he gets crunched by a left hook. Nijem is hurt again. Nijem on his bike and he eats a right hand. Proctor defending the takedown against the fence. Nijem gets him down. Nijem gets top position but he's gassed. Proctor and Nijem are both tired. Proctor going for a tight guillotine with Nijem on his ass by the fence. Proctor is wearing him down. Nijem gets the takedown but he's defending a guillotine. He shakes it loose and now has th defend a kimura---short lived. Nijem has him mounted in side control, and the round ends.
     
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    Rd. 3. Nice slomo replay that shows Nijem eating a big right hand. Procctor looking crappy because he's gassed. Nijem laying and praying. Proctor tries for another guillotine and winds up on his back again. This fight has turned dull. Nijem landing weaksauce and just trying to ride it out. Now Proctor gets top position and WHOA, Proctor almost pulls out a nice straight armbar. Now Nijem stifles the pace and both guys look wiped out. Grueling match but not that fun to watch in my opinion. . Proctor has top position, loses it, and they stand up and slug it out to the bell.
     
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    The winner, via top position dominance, Ramsey Nijem. His striking looks awkward and stiff, but he landed his fair share of punches and dropped Proctor with that jumping front kick to the body.
     
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    Fuck, that main card is stacked.
     
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    Any of you dewds have streamz?
     
  27. Buddy Rydell

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    Benson looks nervous, walking with his entourage. He should be. Assuncao vs Easton next. Mike, 'The Midget Hulk" Easton.

    Rd 1. Bantamweights. Easton moving around a lot at first. Assuncao flatfooted and picking his shots. Good head movement by Assuncao. Easton making the fight happen. Man, Assuncao keeps that head up and tilted back. Easton wiffs with a spinning heel kick. Easton slowing down a bit. Still, he's forcing the fight. Easton defends a big takedown attempt. They get separated and posture till the bell.
     
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    I'm just watching Sportsnet here in Canada. Sorry man.
     
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    Rd 2. Trading kicks. Easton is slowing down. Assuncao counters occasionally and uses his jab, but Assuncao now moving forward. Wow, they trade a lot there, and Assuncao lands a nice knee to Easton's nuts. On the replay it looks mostly like thigh, but you heard the tng to the nutcup. That ought to get Hanzy's mouth watering. Anyhow, Assuncao finally starts moving forwrd again. Assuncao lands a front kick to the face. Easton goes for a takedown and Assuncao defends. Another kick by Assuncao. Assuncao goading but not really doing anything, and the crowd boos the finish of the round. Sometimes you get two guys who cancel each other out and neither can really take advantage. Assuncao has the advantage on the counters but Easton forces the action. Close fight.
     
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    Rd 3. Assuncao starts with a jab. Easton should be using his jab. He's continually short on his punches, which is strange. Assuncao counters with a right hand, then a thigh kick. Assuncao lands a left hand, right hand combo from a southpaw stance. Easton defending a takedown. Assuncao takes his down, and Easton jumps back up. Easton defnds another takedown. Assuncao is just landing a little bit more on the counters and he is winning a close one. Both guys gassing. And they finish standing while neutralizing each other. Close one.
     

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