MUSIC: the official thread.

Oh boy....

ABBA had a song you liked and Zep was shite?

Wow.

 

For this reason, I treat your view of "the charts" with suspicion

 

Well, yeah, 'modern-music' I use the term loosely. I don't know what era(s) you can define as 'modern'?

Why don't we agree on 'it's-music-for-cunts-who-need-destroying'?

 

All rubbish except the Bruno Mars track - I liked this the first time I heard it on the radio...sounds a bit 1980s-ish to me, thats probably why...

 

ABBA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zeppelin.

 

Can't believe I'm about to back Hut, in the music thread of all places ::, but ABBA had some serious tunes

 

Uh oh.....I might be wrong on this one ::

 

:laughing:

 

Agreed.
Grew up with ABBA... and people with 'highly-polished musical taste', and most of the hard-rocking crowds in particular, would disagree with me putting ABBA on the same list The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, etc.
The musically-retarded will dismiss ABBA thus: commercial, slick, pretty 'chocolate egg' music for girls and housewives who like their pop-stars and musicians clean rather than 'musical'

Who cares. You can't deny that their music is impossibly catchy and totally really timeless. On the downside, if you rate them for originality, diversity, resonance...they fall short....but listenability? Second-to-none: pure, slick, commercial pop, but it's high quality pop. hno:

 

I can agree to that:truce:

 

ABBA was pretty goddamn terrible, Dancing Queen notwithstanding

about as plastic as it gets

 

No.

 

Yes.

"Fernando", "Waterloo", "Take a chance on me", etc. are fucking gash songs... About as brilliant as The Bay City Rollers

 

They were fucking great, the fuck man

 

Now I know you're trolling. :nono:
Someone as bright and muscially knowledgable as you would never dismiss the Swedish genius' as 'fucking gash' or compare with the Bay City Rollers.
If you just get over yourself and forget for a moment the slick-sweetness of such tunes like "I've Been Waiting For You", "Take A Chance On Me", "When I Kissed The Teacher" and lots of others, you will see that most of them have a great melody, well-crafted lyrics, professional arrangements and an awesome sound.
Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson were serious composers, with rock, pop, jazz, and classical influences and in their prime, they churned out interesting, original, unpredictable chord sequences and vocal melodies that put to shame, most of their less imaginative pop contemporaries.
Their best songs can't help but stick in your head - and they stick there because they are all based on actual melody 'meat-n-potatoes', and not, to what YOU and so many biased ABBA haters claim: hype, slickness, and corny arrangements.
The vocals: how can one dislike the vocals? Passionate, raw, and so expressive that you end up forgetting the sometimes embarrassing lyrics.

If you love music as much as you think you do, go and listen to 1976's quintessential album 'Arrival' or it's follow-up, 'The Album' - and then come back and if you like, we'll have another tear-up. opcorn:

 

Honestly, you're mental

There's almost nothing interesting about ABBA other than how they managed to be so popular

Admittedly, a bit better than the Bay City Rollers, but hardly anything to write home about... If I want to hear phony, plastic music as an artform, I will listen to The Bee Gees or The Guess Who, thank you very much... both of those shit on ABBA from miles up

ABBA is the type of group that people enjoy either because they have really shit taste or they are being ironic

 

The Bee Gees?
I like them...but they get minus points for frequent descension into schlock, over-reliance on the 'sugary ballad' principle and no originality.
And one day they're adequate, the next an over-sacchrine take on Barry Manilow.
And let's face it, they caught it big when disco took-off...so, yeah, they saw an opportunity and rode with it, but don't compare them to ABBA.

You're starting to run out of steam...so I'd avoid laying on the ropes if I were you, son.

 

LMAO, the Bee Gees could shit out songs that are better than the most earnest ABBA creations ever... they lack originality? Who else sang in such ridiculous voices? ABBA is like the Bee Gees with nowhere near the same gift for melody... they had none of the hilarity of the Bee Gees

 

is Sheik Yerbouti your favourite Frank Zappa album?

 

nah, I'd have that down as one of my least favorites, honestly

you a fan?

 

ABBA > Led Zeppelin...... Wow.. I still can't get my hands around that. And I actually liked Dancing Queen back in the day.

II, III and IV might be the best consecutive release of records in music history.

I feel like my parents saying " Now Sinatra, that was music" as I blarred AC/DC's "Problem Child"... It turns out they weren't wrong, either.

 

For the record, I'm not saying ABBA are a greater band than Zeppelin. I just recognise the obvious fact that those Swedes produced some timeless records, without question.

 

Are there any highly regarded bands you detest, Trplsec?

 

what's your favourite?

Zappa is cool :bears: i only ever had 6 or so albums though..have had them since forever...i need to get deeper into the rest of his stuff

 

are there any you DON'T?:crafty:

 

great question

If I had to pick 6, I'd pick Hot Rats, Waka/Jawaka, The Grand Wazoo, Roxy & Elsewhere, Uncle Meat and We're Only In It For The Money

for Sheik Yerbouti, I wouldn't say it's all bad... there are good tracks, but I was never as big a fan of that era as some of the other ones... the good thing about him is that there are so many albums and so many different groups of musicians and styles that you could find 10 albums you love and 10 albums you hate and your 10 (or 20, I guess) would be different than somebody else's ... which ones do you have?

 

Hot Rats, Joe's Garage, Sheik Yerbouti, We're Only In It for the Money, Over-Nite Sensation, Uncle Meat...i'll check out the ones you listed

i think at some stage each of these was my most listened to Zappa album at that point in time, it just keeps changing depending on mood

i got into him when i was little through old compilation tapes my dad had...the tapes are now long lost and i still cant seem to find some songs i vaguely remember from these tapes :scratcher: i'll have to go through his entire discography some time

 

Oh absolutely. I'd rather have my nuts pounded flat with a wooden mallet than be forced to listen to Train, Coldplay, Van Halen (with that dude from Extreme), Nickleback, Limp Bizkit, as examples.

 

Joe's Garage has some terrific music and overall hilarity on it... Cyyyyyyyyy-borrrg.... Over-Nite Sensation has some good ones too... the playing on all of these is ridiculous... he always had amazing musicians