Shottest fighter ever

So barring Forrest, Sanders etc jokes, which fighter has been the most shot ever? Who is the one we have seen in the ring with the most diminished skills? It must be some at least pretty good fighter (so that he has had skills to lose). Is it Riddick Bowe?

 

Roy was the first that came to mind

 

mike tyson from botha onward? If we're talking diminished skill

 

don't you mean "Mike Tyson from Spinks onward" ?

 

he at least had his speed left pre holyfield suspension

 

Ali was really bad.

 

Yeah late Ali has to be up there

 

yeah, Ali against Holmes and Berbick is about as shot a fighter as you'll ever see... he literally had nothing

 

The reason I thought of Bowe ahead of Ali (and Jones) was that Ali was much closer to top-10 even at the Berbick fight than Bowe was against Billy Zumbrun. Of course, Ali had a lot more to lose too

 

If you're speaking about guys long retired who came back to pay the rent, then there's probably a lot to choose from then. Often those fights aren't even televised so it's difficult to gauge the level of 'shotness'

For example Alexis Arguello got beat by a guy called 'The Pink Cat'.

 

Augie Sanchez

Everytime he got touched on the chin, he literally looked like he got shot.

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Ali vs Holmes. Guy had nominal kidney function, nominal at best. I mean, he went into the fight with a malfunctioning urinary system. Most guys go into a fight with a bad hand and it's "oh, he never beat no real X Y or Z".......well Ali had trouble forming urine and disposing of it safely. That's pretty shot.

 

but I think a lot of his even being anywhere near the top ten was due to nostalgia and what he once had been

 

yup, plus he was on a thyroid medicine that made any type of strenuous activity extremely dangerous... crazy

 

This may not qualify as #1 but I remember seeing Terry Norris fight Dana Rosenblatt and it was a realyl sad sight. You could tell Norris just couldn't pull the trigger and you could almost see him think about what he was going to do then be completely unable to do it. Roseblatt won a close-ish decision and I just remember that Terry Norris even a few years earlier would have blown this kid out of the water... they were in two totally different classes in terms of fighting ability and it was tragic to see Norris fall so far. I think he retired after that match.

 

Leon Spinks lost to a guy who was 3-33(?)

 

The Ali that Fought Holmes & Berbick was about as Shot as ANY Fighter in the History of Boxing...




REEDathetic:

 

ali was still tough enough to not get knocked out cold. there were former tough guys so shot that a gentle breeze tipped them over.

 

Pipino Cuevas crashed about as hard as you can crash

Matthew Saad Muhammad, whose ability to absorb punishment and emerge victorious was superhuman for a few years, suddenly fell apart and was never the same again

 

Antwun Echols right now is basically a snowman who crumbles as soon as he's punched hard. While he was no great shake in his prime, he was still a tough, hard punching, contender who gave Hopkins 2 tough fights. Nowaday, he loses by early ko to anyone, good or bad, he fights

 

I saw that one when it happened... it was painful.

 

Ray Leonard vs. Hector Camacho - Seeing Leonard getting backed up, bullied and KOed by Camacho, of ALL people, was almost surreal.

 

I'm shocked REETard hasn't said it's Roid Jones in the Tarver rematch

 

Early 80's Ali, the post-Tarver Roy, and the post-Lewis Tyson are the 3 most shot fighters I've seen.

 

Also, the Duran that fought Joppy and the Chavez that fought Tszyu were both WAAYYY beyond shot.

The Mancini that fought Haugen was pitifully shot as well.

 

Golota vs Brewster and Adamek

 

All three of those were just awful to see... They had no business in the ring, any of them

 

Every fight McGirt lost in he was shot

 

Wilfred Benitez had nothing left in the tank after he lost to Hearns. Watching him getting beatings against Hamsho & Davey Moore was painful.

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I wouldn't consider Benitez "shot" at that point of his career. He was still as good as ever against Hearns...he lost because Hearns was the better fighter. He broke his ankle in the Moore fight and wasn't really a middleweight which is why he lost to Hamsho, and Hamsho was no joke...he was probably the second best Middleweight after Hagler at that time. I could buy him as on the decline, but I won't put him down as "shot' until a bit later. After the Moore fight, he was able to beat decent "up and comer" types like Kevin Moley and Paul Whittaker. A "shot" fighter doesn't win those fights...like Arguello flopping against "Pink Cat" Walker, who was more of a journeyman than anything else.

I buy Benitez's decline starting sometime after the Hearns fight, but he was not a "shot" fighter around the time of the Moore and Hamsho fights.