MUSIC: the official thread.

I don't consider them 'middle of the road' but they're definitely within the framework of conventional guitar music, yeah. No good can come of this conversation, so I guess we might as well drop it.

 

pretty interesting on Queen Boehmian Rhapsody..
if you are into recording etc..

living for years in a basement where we had a studio and recorded music i find some of this very interesting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_rhapsody

 

I don't like either, but I wouldn't consider Roxy Music or the Sex Pistols MOR, either, to use two of the sample bands in my example

 

Neither do I but throw them in a blender together with Pearl Jam and U2 and you definitely end up with something of the genus genericus shitus.

 

true:laugh11:

 

I fucking hated Pearl Jam. Never understood the love they got. Riding on Nirvana's coat-tails.

 

Speaking of Nirvana, can anyone think of a similar "great" band with a shorter mainstream prime? '91-'94 is a ridiculously short period of time to make such a colossal impact.

 

Joy Division.

 

Very good shout actually, Hut. Good work.

 

Not to disagree or anything because I do think Joy Division is a great answer, but it was more of a retrospective impact than immediate. Nirvana might be the only band to have that kind of instantaneous significance.

 

Sex Pistols ;)

 

As Lennox would say - Definitely. Good answer.

 

This one's for Brother Clogg::

Well listen
Well the modern world is not so bad
Not like the students say
In fact I'd be in heaven
If you'd share the modern world with me
With me in love with the U.S.A. now
With me in love with the modern world now
Put down the cigarette
And share the modern world with me.

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For Brother Hut :hammert:

Some turnout, a hundred grand
Get with it we'll shake his hand
Don't bother to understand
Don't question the little man
Be part of the brotherhood
Yes it's chain lightning
It feels so good
Hush brother, we cross the square
Act natural like you don't care
Turn slowly and comb your hair
Don't trouble the midnight air
We're standing just where he stood
It was chain lightning
It feels so good

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Take note, Brother Hut, of Rick Derringer's fabulous guitar solo... oh, DO take note!

 

Steely Dan eats my musical pussy

 

Yeah, I liked Modern Lovers much better. Minimalist, modernist, urgent.....clean lines.

The Steely Dan song brought to mind a setting like this. Perhaps a fan video could be time lapse footage of one of the residents taking all day to paint a fence (::):

 

bizarre interpretation:scratcher:

Steely Dan sounds more unmistakably New York than any popular, non-bebop music I've ever heard... everything about their music, their humor, their reference points, Fagen's accent, screams New York... they could have only come from there

 

Didn't they come from Red Hook? Anyway, that songs pretty un- 'NYC' to me. It's the sound of waddling contently down a dirt track as the sun sets, to me.

 

No... Walter Becker was from Queens, Fagen grew up in Passaic (which is Metro Area anyway)

That is a textbook city blues, that song... with jazz changes, which are of course... CITY changes... and those particular types of changes are the kind heard in Bop, which is of course, New York City-born

plus the lyrics are all jive stuff... very 40s

 

The sex pistols IMO totally blow

 

:hammert: indeed

 

40s? Around the time there were still millions of first generation blacks from the great migration? That stuff just sounds loose to me. I hear John Coltrane I hear directness, tension, urgency - 'city'; so it's not like it has to be downtown scene or punkish to sound 'New York' to me. But I don't hear it in that track, personally. It's all associative, obviously.

 

Sex Pistols were 17 year olds making good music for 17 year olds. Plus they were a hilarious happening.....a cultural event more than a band, thats where I file them. Sailing down the Thames in bondage gear during the jubilee screaming about the Queen being a fascist bitch.

 

Harlem, baby... where The Duke made his name

Minton's Playhouse

Charlie Parker, Dizzy, Howard McGhee, Roy Haynes, Monk, Miles, Horace Silver, Sonny Rollins, Sonny Stitt, Bud Powell... NOO YAWK IS BOP, baby

 

No doubt. 'Take the A train'...... steam coming out pavement vents, old streetlights at night, people moving quickly. It sounds quintessentially of another era to me (would 'dated' offend you? ::), but still urban. Steely Dan is just.....loose. The sound of an easy pace.

What's some blues that you'd think of as 'urban', out of interest, id be curious to hear it?

 

Steely Dan only SEEMS loose, my friend

dated does not offend me... it was a great "date" after all, in so many ways... the arts flourished all around the city

 

'This chocolate cake only seems to taste rotten, sir' ::

 

you'll hate it for your weird, essentially non-musical reasons(::) but listen to "Deacon Blues" form Aja... That is a song that could only happen in the city... if you prefer, find the lyrics and read them

 

:: Uncanny!

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'A good architect is interested in more than the building as an object he's concerned with how it frames space, interacts with people at ground level' - Jan Gehl. Those aren't 'non-architectural' concerns. afafafafa.

Anyhoo, i gave it a listen......your prediction was accurate. :: Eugh.