Django Unchained - Trailer/Discussion***

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  1. cdogg187

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    up until the last 30min i thought that the movie was excellent

    then it got stupid and beyond ridiculous - including a couple of character with strong modern Australian accents which surely would not have existed at that time :dunno:

    it would have been a good movie if it had just ended 30-40min earlier.....it's almost as if Tarantino realised that there wasn't enough killing and he hadn't cast himself into the movie yet, so decided to fuck the whole thing up
     
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    No it's just that he is trying to make it a western. And westerns always took forever to end. Especially spagetti westerns. 90% of them should have ended 40 minutes earlier. I was watching once upon a time in the west the other day and just laughing at how much the ending was procrastinated.
     
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    i'm a big fan of westerns...i have no problem with it being a procrastinated ending...just that in this particular case it was shit

    like some modern day rap music playing during the shooting scene? give me a fucking break, :wack: that's supposed to be a homeage to westerns is it?

    that handshake scene was as though there was a switch and Rodriguez took over the movie :lol:


    so it took me 10minutes to get over how stupid the movie had become, and finish checking my phone, and then Taranteno shows up with an unexplained Australian accent :say:


    ditch this bullshit
     
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    Eh to each is own. I loved it Saw it twice. it's better the second viewing.
     
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    maybe you're one of the teenyboppers Tarantino was trying to win over with the rap music :dunno:



    there have been much better westerns in the last 10 years...like 'True Grit' and '3:10 to Yuma' are 10 times better
     
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    the thing with this argument is that the entire storyline is not a typical western plot, in fact it has no resemblance to any westerns
    where's the villian? gang out outlaws? bandits? :dunno:

    so he doesn't follow any western formula when writing the storyline, but insists that the last 30minutes have a drawn out ending in order to resemble that some westerns have drawn out endings too..come on :wack:

    as a comparison, Kill Bill was kung fu and very much followed the typical cliche plot of this genre
     
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    lol @ outlaws. There were tons of outlaws. They were bounty hunters chasing outlaws the whole time.

    Kill bill had rap music in it too. The fucking RZA did the soundtrack.
     
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    They may have been better westerns, but not better movies. Especially since both were just remakes.
     
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    nah there was no enemy
    it's not like they set themselves one gang of outlaws and chased them throughout the entire movie

    so it did not follow a typical western story, thus making the last 30min completely pointless


    Tarantino sucks...i advise everyone to give this movie a miss, you'll be dissapointed
     
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    Up until the last 30 minutes the movie was excellent, but Tarantino sucks and give this movie a miss? Im starting believe people that have been calling you a troll. You just want to argue just to argue.

    Yeah, there was no enemy, just the guy who has his wife and basically a brutal plantation owner who kills his slaves in some of the most brutal fashions imaginable. No enemy at all. And just because it's not a typical western, doesn't mean it's not a western homage. It's fucking ridiculous to say otherwise. The reason it isn't a typical western is because typical westerns start with a legend already made. In this movie, they are making a legend. From the ground up. From Slave to the fastest gun in the south.

    But hey, Roll says skip this "excellent" movie because there is two scenes with less than 20 seconds of rap music and there is a 5 minutes scene with two guys that speak with a modern Australian accent. Why he thinks most people that aren't Australian would even know this or give a flying fuck is beyond me.
     
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    are you nuts? 30min = 20% of the movie
    so if i was giving the movie a 8/10 prior to the last 30minutes...and the last 30minutes are 0/10, then that's like giving it 5.5/10 overall


    you argued that the last 30minutes are there in order to make it more like a typical Western..but you admit that the entire movie is not a typical western...so which is it? :dunno:


    i'm starting to think that you're a troll, but one that doesn't think for himself but rather just copies the media
     
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    don't you see that it was totally uncharacteristic for Shulz to pull out a gun? the entire movie is him being cool headed, acting according to the law etc


    and its not like i'm the only one who thought that the last 30 minutes was stupid :dunno: i'm checking various boards and loads of people agree with me :bears:
     
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    It's 18%. The movie is 170 minutes long.

    That being said, i didn't say that he made the last 30 minutes in order to make it a typical western. Read it again. I said westerns drag, especially spaghetti westerns. Spaghetti westerns sit there and spend sometimes ten minutes on just riding in the desert or looking at the sky. For someone that is suppose to be a western fan, the fact that you don't know this, means you are full of shit. You think The good, the bad & the ugly needed to be almost three fucking hours?

    You claim there is no enemy, and i proved you false. You claimed there was no outlaws, i proved you false. There have been other westerns with Bounty Hunter themes.
    a few seconds of rap music and 3 minutes of modern Australian dialect and the movie sucks? Sure. keep trolling.

    "movie was excellent despite the last 30 minutes, so skip the whole thing and tarantino sucks"
    -Roll with the Punches.

    :lol:

    BTW, the last 15 minutes of this movie was fucking great. And both times i seen this movie in the theater, people clapped when it was finished.
     
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    Which is why he was killed. He did something out of the ordinary and he got shot. Does this not register in your brain? Does that need explaining? He knew he was going to die right there and then. He isnt use to getting outsmarted. And when it happened, and Leo kept pushing, he said fuck it. His pride was too much.

    This is something i would need to explain to a child.
     
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    what a troll, not going to read your posts as you're resorting to childish name calling as usual



    my review will be more valueable to the forum than yours :bears: yours gives no insight at all...movie gets a 5.5/10

    now go get your fucking shine box
     
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    Im not agreeing or disagreeing with either of you...but that line made me laugh.
     
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    a law abiding citizen...basically did nothing wrong, had his valuable time wasted and saved himself from getting swindled

    you're right, no enemy at all

    :bears:
     
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    What I like about this film is exactly that it breaks the darn western formula and is original. Even the shootout isn't typical western formula. Love this film.
     
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    fair enough :bears: thats what tarantino was obviously going for with the ending
    just to suddenly have a wtf moment then cram in all the violence into 30min


    Anthony shoulda posted the same rather than conradict himself :dunno: "tarantino wanted to make it a typical western but the movie is nothing like a typical western"
     
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    So now a law abiding citizen cant be an enemy? The fact that he was a slave owner who had his wife isnt good enough? They werent going to kill him. Just buy his wife. Leo made himself the enemy at the end. And that is when he had to die.
     
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    I never said he wanted to make a typical western. In fact, i specifically pointed out why this western was different than others in my initial review. But you want to go ahead and troll and make shit up
     
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    how did Leo make himself the enemy? :eek:hno: he never lied about anything or wasted anyones time
    he wasnt going to kill them either, they were minutes from walking out of there with his wife
     
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    :finger::doh::lol::clapagain:
     
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    Mr. Candie (DiCaprio) became even more abominable after he brought his goon with a rifle, forcing Dr.Schultz to change his original deal and threatening all of them and in particular Broomhilda, to chop her head and examine her inner skull. He was a cold blooded monster. Dr.Schultz couldn't tolerate shaking hands with this racist monster. He lost his temper and shot him. I doubt that even after giving Candie the money they would be allowed to leave freely,since Candie was outraged that Schultz and Django fooled him for so long.

    BTW Kerry Washington is a fine looking dame.

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    :dunno: oh poor dr schulz wasnt able to deceive him and rip him off??

    geez man...you gotta try to put yourself into other people's shoes and not be ignorant to how things were back in those days


    of course he would have let them leave...there is nothing to suggest otherwise, he's a honest law abiding citizen...he got the better of them by getting 12k, so he was not outraged..he won
     
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    If you remember while Candie was seated and Schultz and Django ready to leave, the camera pans to a close-up of DiCaprio's face: he was pissed. He didn't look a bit like the 'immensely winner' Schultz described a minute earlier. He knew Schultz was boiling with anger and he was provoking him with the hand shake request. This was not a gentlemen's deal: it was a showdown.
     
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    of course he was pissed, he was insulted...so he decided to rub his victory in schultz's face some more....he was just gloating with the hand shake...he is a rich businessman from a wealthy family, not a criminal, and he doesn't do anything illegal in the movie

    so nothing there suggested that Leo wouldn't have let them leave...Leo could have just had them all killed at the table when he found out about the scam and just taken the money, plus all the additional money they had
     
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    That is different than what you said. You said that i said he made the last 30 minutes in order for it to be a typical western. A complete lie on your end.
     

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