Bradley-Provodnikov - this weekend

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Excuses for what, in any case? Its not like he lost or anything ::

 

See what you've done, X?

 

I don't want your kisses.

 

Pac's not a monster puncher at 147, but he can punch at any weight and speed kills. However, his handspeed and timing has declined.

Do you have ANY doubt at all that Pac of 2009 that slaughtered Cotto would stop Bradley? Timmy would have been road kill against that Pac.

 

So how American is Edison Miranda?

 

South?? Like your writing career. :laugh11:

 

No surprises here.

 

He probably would have stopped him... point is that the Russian fellow, while slow and crude, appears quite strong and powerful

 

Man, you would think if Irish's theory held any weight (it doesn't) there would have been a lot of passionate rooting for Bradley going on in this thread... As one of the guys posting here while watching the fight, all I saw was dudes enjoying a great fight and praising the efforts of both guys... the only guy who seemed to have a horse in the race was punchypisssss who was rooting AGAINST Bradley

But I guess that's just what I want Irish to think... I'm off to the next conference of the Masonic Order of American Boxing Fans... ta ta!

 

No way man, this fight is ammo. For threads to come.

Don't you see? Here's what future threads will be like.

Me: Man, I really don't like watching wald pussy. He's a cunt.

Irish: Remember that time you guys all enjoyed that exciting Tim Bradley fight?

Me: oh shit!

 

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Kind of like "Haye Lost" being repeated ad nauseum for at least two years as if everyone here was really pulling for the cunt (who, like Miranda, is about as American as Ugottabe Kidding)

 

Some posters have reduced the matter of stopping Bradley to one of speed and power. Style always plays a part. It's debatable whether Pac would have even beaten Meldrick Taylor, much less laid a beating on him like Chavez ultimately did. On paper, it would make sense that Pac should have been able to lay the same sort of leather on Bradley that the Russian did.

Provodnikov came forward simply because he had no choice in the matter, he is too unskilled to likewise. Ironically thus, he found that his limited style was the perfect foil for Bradleys high-intensity but underpowered method. Pac might well have beaten Bradley but he didn't beat him up because he never applied himself in the same way, he has options, used them accordingly.

Its a large part of the reason why I think Bradley is going to be OK for the foreseeable future....he's not likely to fight an opponent like that too often. The Broners, Mayweathers etc will pose problems for sure but of a totally different nature.

 

Miranda was merely an example of a fighter not getting a nod in Germany with an argument being made {Quite vociferously as it was, at the time} that the same set of circumstances would have produced a totally different outcome had the fight been in the United States/America. Some would say the fight would have been stopped due to the blood loss, or that Miranda would not have had points deducted etc.

I wasn't aware I actually said Miranda was from the USA.

 

What is my theory????

 

You told us your theory a few pages back. Replace Provodnikov with Bradley, put the fight in Eastern Europe and we're all outraged.

 

You then used a (terrible) example, Miranda/AA, to support that.

 

I did?

 

That simply was not what was said.

In any event, if I replace Provodnikv with Bradley, then would Bradley be fighting himself? :dunno:

 

Yes. You did.

 

yes, I know and I keep saying it is nonsense

I have been saying so for years

When the Filipino star was robbed of his title (whichever belt it was, who can even tell these days?) in a fight against the American in America, was there not a huge and vocal majority of American fight fans calling it highway robbery? The only guy on this site that scored the fight for Bradley was D MAN and I think he was from Canada originally. If you're hypothesis were correct, shouldn't everyone from this side of the Atlantic have been conspicuously diplomatic towards Mr. Braddles?

I called it the worst decision I had seen since Whitaker/Ramirez

 

Semantics, you know what he meant

You most certainly did say that if the roles were reversed... if Bradley is a white Russian (obviously of Indigenous origin) and Protestantinov is a black American and the fight takes place in Russia, we (Americans and I guess Canadians now) are all furious about it

 

I did say people would be furious. I did not say YOU would be furious.

 

the difference saturday was not between pacquiao and provodnikov. it was bradley. he fought more aggressively in round one basically because everyone claimed he is a boring fighter. in the process he got buzzed badly and never really recovered enough to stick to his usual game plan. he did enough to win and it was an exciting fight so i wont say his strategy backfired, but he sure did take a lot of unnecessary punishment.

 

Excuses!

But yeah, that's exactly what happened.

 

I liked the new Bradley that fought the Rusky.

 

Well, the "new" Bradley would get KO'd if he were to fight Rios like that.

 

At 147? Lets chill on that.

 

Dude, Provo can into the ring at 149, which is less than what Rios usually comes in weighing. If you think Rios can't hurt Braddles you're fooling yourself. Difference is, Rios is a MUCH better finisher than Provo.

 

Provo and Rios are different fighters though. I don't like Rios to hurt Bradley early like Prov did.

I just want to see Rios in with a top level guy above lightweight. I'm not really that big on Rios without a size advantage.

 

yea Id like to see rios in with a strong 160 lb guy like bradley