Dana: GSP vs Hendricks is in doubt, GSP vs Anderson could be next instead

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  1. Anthony

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    The serra fight to me questioned GSP's heart more than chin. And his playing it safe confirms that IMO. His ability to take a kick from condit completely erases any doubt of a weak chin IMO. A weak heart? maybe. Chin? The man has never been knocked out.
     
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    One think i also want to point out is that serra landed on GSP's temple. His balance was all fucked up after that. It was not a chin shot.
     
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    REED's Used the Term "Punch (Strike) Resistance", as Well...

    The Shot that STARTED GSP's Downfall was a Temple Shot, but the Shot that DROPPED him on his Back was Right in the Middle of his Grill...w/Out Question, GSP has SUSPECT Strike Resistance...



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    For what it's worth, I knew a boxer who used to spar with GSP, and he said that he had a pretty bad chin, that eahc time he connected solidly, GSP was doing the dance
     
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    So GSP has 1 KO loss in 26 fights, it was a stoppage due to strikes not a knock out, and he was hit with at least a dozen punches, a couple of them to the head, and that means he has a suspect chin?

    I guess that means Serra has brutal KO power too. I mean, he knocked out a guy who's never been stopped before or after.

    Ridiculous.

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    SPARE REED your SMARMY Brand of BULLSHIT, Homegirl:shit:...

    MANY People (REED Would Even Say MOST People), In & Around MMA, QUESTION GSP's Chin...& RIGHTFULLYfuckingSO..."Ridiculous", REED's Ass, that's the PREVAILING Sentiment on the Matter...GSP's Chin is SUSPECT...Yet here YOU Are, Acting as if REED's Saying Something UNHEARD of???...Again, REED's Calling BULLSHIT....

    It's BECAUSE of GSP's CHIN that Most (YOU Included) View his Potential Fight w/Silva as a "Mismatch"...Silva's THE BEST Striker in the Business & GSP has SUSPECT Strike Resistance...Why Else would the Fight Be Considered a "Mismatch", if NOT for what REED just Noted???...



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    Look at Reed getting all bent out of shape and starting up with the 'homegirl' nonsense because someone has a different opinion than him.

    Didn't see that one coming.


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    Nah, YOU Went Offsides w/that "Ridiculous" BULLSHIT....

    REED Merely Offered a DIFFERING Opinion...YOU Got All MENSTRUAL about it & Used Less than Flattering Terms to Describe REED's Thoughts...

    The Posts DON'T Lie...

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    Calling a ridiculous opinion ridiculous is by no means ridiculous.

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    I think the drastic change in GSP's style after the Serra fight is pretty clear evidence that he knows his chin is questionable.

    The thing I find odd is how fragile GSP's heart is for a champion of his caliber. He tapped to strikes against Serra. He wanted to quit on his stool against Shields. There were even a couple of times in the relatively easy fight with Diaz where GSP looked like he was on the verge of mentally collapsing.

    He is so good that he rarely gets put in uncomfortable positions, but I have no doubt that he would roll over if he was ever in a difficult, blood and guts type fight.
     
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    Condit was a blood and guts fight
     
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    True, the shot that dropped him was on the grill, but was stilled fucked up from the initial temple shot. I use to think his chin was questionable until that question was answered for me in the condit fight.
     
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    GSP clearly has a suspect chin, and just like wald pussy, he knows it, and protects it at all costs.

    You can see he is a bit bothered/hurt every time something lands on his chin, he recovered quick from the Condit kick, so what, doesn't mean his chin is good.
     
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    That's just It...

    The ONLY Thing "Ridiculous" about it is YOUR Stance on the Matter, as the Follow Up Posts have CLEARLY Illustrated...

    1nce Again, REED has OWNED you in the Forum YOU Created...That's Almost as Bad as TAPPING OUT in Shame, Leaving the Site in a Hissy Fit, Only to Return....ALMOST...




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    what does it mean then?
     
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    Just one day I would like to live in your fantasy world.

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    Please. Every time it got close to being a blood and guts type of battle, GSP took Condit down and held him there.

    Don't get me wrong. It's impressive as hell that GSP can dictate where every minute of his fights take place, but make no mistake, he uses his wrestling to protect a delicate chin and a fragile heart.
     
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    Ridiculous...



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  19. TFK

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    Does Nate Diaz have a suspect chin? He got KO'd last night.

    Really, using the logic that GSP's chin is suspect, any fighter who has ever been stopped even once has a suspect chin too.

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    I'm not basing my belief that GSP has a suspect chin solely on his loss to Serra.
     
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    Whatever you belief is based on, it doesn't matter. GSP's chin is just fine.

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    I think someone with a delicate chin gets knocked out by this point of his career. And a delicate chin gets knocked out cold by that condit kick.
     
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    Nor SHOULD You...

    REED Himself Began Watching MMA just PRIOR to GSP Becoming World Champion & Back Then, Dude UNQUESTIONABLY Fought in More of a Risk Taking Manner...To Be Specific, GSP Threw a SHITLOAD More KICKS & Showcased ALOT More of his Overall STANDUP Game than he's EVER Dared to, Since the KO Loss to Serra...

    But Since Serra I, GSP has Basically Been a WRESTLER & Anybody that DENIES GSP has Incorporated MORE of a Wrestling Base, Since Serra I, is Being "Ridiculous"....

    CLEARLY, GSP Fights in a Manner that MINIMIZES his LESS Than Stellar Strike Resistance...He's a SMARTER, SAFER Fighter than he was PRIOR to Serra I....It's TRANSfuckingPARENT to See...



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    Since serra I he has taken a more wrestling stance. But i put that more to him not having a big hear than him having a bad chin. He just doesn't like to get hit.
    But also he has stood with dangerous strikers and has out struck them.
     
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    So a fighter fighting to his strengths means he has a suspect chin?

    Talk about a reach.


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    I think you guys are little harsh on GSP

    Condit cracked GSP pretty hard with that kick a similar kick more or less stopped the iron jawed Diaz.
     
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    pretty sure Diaz took 2 of those kicks in the first round and didn't budge.

    The difference is that Diaz fights the same way whether he's fighting a monster puncher like Guillard or a lighter puncher like Jim Miller.

    When GSP fought a dangerous puncher like Dan Hardy, he basically crawled for a takedown as soon as the bell rung.


    Again, the dude has used strategy AND skill to become one of the top P4P guys in the sport so I don't fault him for being boring. But make no mistake, he was NEVER boring until Serra cracked that chin.


    Before Serra, GSP had 11 diminishes. Since Serra, he's had 2 (Penn's corner stopped their fight).

    Maybe it's not because he has a questionable chin, but that seems to be the thought of other fighters and many fans. Maybe we're all wrong.
     
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    I would suggest the latter. He has come up with a formula that works and takes absolutely no risk when fighting. OK it's not always exciting for us fans but I can't blame the guy.
     
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    I agree. We can debate the motive but the results can't be disputed.

    And Anthony could be right. Maybe GSP just hates getting hit in the face. Seems natural. :lol:
     
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    By "Fighting to his Strengths", What Else is GSP doing???...Fighting AWAY From his WEAKNESSES, that's What....

    From the Moment GSP's Strike Resistance Resulted in his Last L, he's Fought a DIFFERENT Way Entirely...Strike Resistance IS his Weakness...It's Undeniable...

    You're Great @ BURYing your Own Arguments...




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