Schaefer: Khan, Ortiz, Garcia All Possible For Mayweather

But the difference between Floyd and Pacquiao is PAC has WAY less say. I blame Bob Arum way more than I blame Pacquiao. But Arum, in this case = team Pacquiao.

I agree with you. I think Manny would fight wald pussy tomorrow if someone told him he had to.

 

arum was always a bigger impediment than any dope tests

 

I don't see who's doing that honestly. Most people tend to place more blame on Floyd. Did you hear any talk of drug testing for the guerrero fight?

 

guerrero agreed to take the tests

 

Doggy, you are a good man, but everyone with an ounce of sense on this site was three years ago declaring that Floyd needed to fight Cotto/Margarito/Williams or preferably Manny.

MTF

 

You are backing the guy who hates Carl Froch and won't watch him fight 'cos he is shit. The guy who promised Bute would smoke him.

Chose your allies better, pal.

MTF

 

MTF is still ignoring my points. What are you trained in law or something?

 

yes... but they were also saying pacquiao should fight Mayweather, as well... it goes both ways, bro

 

This post will be henceforth known as the plague. Cause that's how you cats are avoiding it like.

 

Good boxing talk though :bears:

 

This discussion is 3 years late.

 

It's never too late to learn.

 

Well one thing we can all agree on is that Floyd's opponents are better then wald pussy's opponents.

 

Definitely.

 

I'll repeat what I said. Your post was speculation. You were not privy to the discussions in any way nor were you involved in anything. You are a weatherman for beaver pelt monthly. You coughed up some numbers from the air and postulated them off as fact. That's okay, we all say silly things from time to time.

MTF

 

no doubt

 

Wlad doesn't have much choice, he's cleaned out the division for a decade. There isn't one guy who you could say "Wlad should have fought that guy" The same can't be said for Floyd.

 

You're getting personal now? :(

The 32-3 split for Mayweather/Guerrero is not speculation. Read up on it.

 

Where did I deny this? You asked 'who should Mayweather fight'? My response was 'Manny'. I said I haven't watched Mayweather fight since then because (and you can check this) I said three years ago I wouldn't watch another Mayweather fight unless he fought Manny. He didn't, so I didn't.

That's all I said.

MTF

 

You brought out 'the plague' :shit:

Look bud, that has nothing to do with Floyd-Manny 2009. You and I both know this. We are all boxing fans here. We want to watch the best fight the best.

MTF

 

:: 'avoid like the plague' is a figure of speech here. Honestly didn't mean anything personal by that.

I agree. We all wanted Mayweather/Pacquiao. But I feel like I'm rightfully doling out equal blame to both sides. The numbers and the coverage back me up.

 

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MTF :bears:

 

I said a while back that it's pretty clear neither fighters wants the fight, or really needs the other one.

But Floyd is still more to blame. He was the one who started putting obstacles in the way (testing, money etc), not Pacquiao. If not for Floyd's obstacles, I think Pacquiao would have proceeded with the fight just fine, without introducing any obstacles of his own.

 

We have quality writers, matchmakers, commentators and the best RBR online here at Fightbeat. If only boxing could get us going here often enough...

MTF

 

but you also seem to be giving Manny a lot of credit for doing the same things you are refusing to give Mayweather credit for and for beating several guys Mayweather had already beat:scratcher:

 

Here is SD not getting personal.

MTF :bears:

 

Pac wasn't on Mayweather's radar until he sparked Hatton; Mayweather had cleaned out 135 with some excellent wins but Manny was an irrelevant midget at that point. Until Hatton no-one though Pac legit at the weight. Then Pac hammered Cotto into the floor. And then Clottey. Then Marg. That is three guys Mayweather 'missed' (for whatever reason). The clamour for the fight was huge- it would have been the biggest fight of our generation. Then Mayweather fought...Ortiz. Hungry young lion. Whilst Pac was fighting Bradley (consensus 140lb champ) Money fought Cotto (Pac sparked him two years before).

That's the last three years. Before doesn't matter because before that the idea of Pacquiao v Mayweather was just stupid.

MTF

 

what about how he wouldn't accept a 50-50 split ?? Even groupie like Rafael ( fat guy on Espn ) basically had to admit that Floyd didn't want the fight

 

Even boxingtalk turned their back on Floyd.

 

greg leon is a bigger asshole than mayweather jr