Peterson vs Matthyse

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must-see television, that one

 

Yeah that would be brutal.

How about Lucas vs Braddles?

 

I think Bradley versus an aggressive banger is always going to be fun

 

Braddles gets KO'd, no doubt in my mind.

Either KO'd, or beaten up very badly. Even if he boxes, I don't think it would matter. Lucas is far less one dimensional than Provo is.

PLUS, I have a feeling Bradley will never be the same again after that fight. I haven't seen too many fights where the WINNER has taken more punishment than in Bradley-Provo. Tim "won", but he's the one who got his ass kicked.

Matthyse is better than Provo in every single way possible. I don't fancy Bradley's chances.

 

Not fun for Timmy if it's Matthysse.

If Rios wasn't fighting Pac, then Bradley-Rios would be fun. And that's a winnable fight for Bradley, unlike fighting Matthysse.

 

Matty ice vs. Ortiz

 

I'd favour Matisse but wouldn't count Braddles out. He is crafty, knows how to fight, and has a lot of heart and toughness. But yeah, Lucas would surely hurt him at some point, and I doubt he'd let him off the hook like Provo did. Plus a bit like Peterdude, Braddles just doesn't have the firepower to get Lucas's respect. He'd probably just walk Bradley down in the same way.

I think it's going to take someone with good pop and counterpunching to beat Matisse, basically tame him to shut down his offense.

 

Ortiz gets hurt in the first, dropped twice in the second, and doesn't deserve the punishment, therefore doesn't come out for the third.

 

Okay...back to earth....actually I really never left....anyway...Matthysee? We all want him to be AWESOME.....he can PUNCH..he comes forward..he has some defensive skills(isn't a face first slugger)...we WANT to like him...we do...and we should..but he isn't a machine.


Showtime commentators kept saying he has a solid, iron, strong CHIN...who has he fought with punching power to claim that?

 

Agreed.

 

from memory, I thought the Judah fight was way worst. The Alexander fight was at least debatable, the Judah fight wasn't

 

I disagree... Bradley lacks a punch but he doesn't lack know-how and certainly doesn't lack heart. Provo is a bigger guy than Matthyse and when he wasn't hurting Bradley, he was getting hammered...

 

agree

 

Provo isn't bigger than Mathysse. And even if he is, it's literally his only edge. Lucas is more powerful than Provo, quicker, more skilled, better defensively, and more intelligent.

All Provo had to do to finish Bradley was work his body more. Instead, he head hunted. Lucas doesn't ignore the body.

 

who would matthysse need to defeat for folks here to consider him a viable foe for mayweather jr ?

 

Two things. Firstly, there is a little bit too much teeny-bopper stuff here which is dealt with nicely by Illuminati. Lucas is a decent sort who hits hard. He isn't some kind of great. Secondly (and related) is the business with Bradley. Timmy has proven himself a tough bastard to beat. Really tough. He's hurtable but really durable and hard to stop, dirty on the inside, gritty, crafty and skilled. I'm not sure how beating peterdude somehow means Matthyse walks through The Head. Timmy is a fairly big step up from the guy whose best wins are a roid-fuelled, controversial decision win over a chinny box-bot and stopping Kendall Holt.

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I don't think it would just be one, he'd need to put together a string of impressive, dominant victories over solid opponents. Whether he could do that within Mayweathers 5-fight window is another thing altogether.

 

Lots of choof words being put into de sky for de wind to take, here

 

Funny, because to date, Braddles most impressive win was when he schooled Peterson for 12 rounds. That fight aside, Bradley has never really impressed, although he's won.

Matthyse blowing away Peterson in 3 shits on Bradley's best career performance. In fact, taking it a step further, Matthysse's performance against Alexander is more impressive than Bradley's performance against Alexander.

And nobody is saying Bradley ISN'T a tough, ballsy guy. BUT he's very hittable, and his chin isn't great, although his heart is. He just went and life and death, and was a about 30 seconds away from losing by KO to a guy who's inferior to Matthysse is most ways.

 

people need to be realistic. at welterweight or below, matthysse is the best available foe for mayweather jr., right now.

 

peterson has also improved since the bradley fight

 

Matthyse just blew away in 3 rounds a man who prior to last night MANY considered to be the best junior welterweight in the world. What are you not understanding about that?

 

Yup! This is also correct.

 

I'd have no issue with a Mayweather shot for Matthysse... there's not a ton out there and Matthysse has already put together a nice string of KOs... Taking into consideration all of the various promotional/contractual issues that make some matchups impossible, Matthysse has got to be considered a viable opponent.

 

It was a very impressive win for sure, but I wouldn't have considered Peterson the best 140-pounder in the world before last nights fight. If he sparks out Garcia then that is a bigger statement in my eyes as he's the man of the moment (I think he'd do it as well).

 

Bradley has fought a host of good comp over a five year period. We know full well what he is about; he looks like he isn't much but he is really hard to beat. He's fought a raft of different types of competition and won through, including against Provo who is a gritty, hard punching attacking fighter similar to Lucas. You say his chin isn't great but despite being hit lots of times and dropped lots of times he hasn't been stopped. He is hurtable but very durable and he has proven very hard to KO.

I still fail utterly to see how Matthyse beating Peterdude is an indicator that he beats Timmy. They are completely different fighters.

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if bradley fought matthysse the same way he fought provodnikov he'd meet the same fate as peterson.

i dont consider garcia the man. he's beat holt, judah and khan

matthysse has beat olusegun, alexander and peterson.

similar resumés

 

I'm sure Neil can correct me if I'm wrong, but am I right in thinking Matthysse is in "the opposite bracket" to Bradley, so it's not really a viable option?

 

What? Anyone who thought this is a complete tube. peterdude needed roids and an 'unorthodox' referee to sneak past Amir friggin Khan.

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