Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Saul Canelo Alvarez in discussion

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  1. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I think in my mind Marquez would KO Terry Norris
     
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  2. whiskey

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    yor mind shud go to sicatrist ok bich
     
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  3. cdogg187

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    Disagree completely. Marquez is a terrific mechanic, excellent counterpuncher but there have been quite a lot of guys between 126-140 that I'd pick over him without hesitation head to head... Not that Mayweather is unbeatable (nobody is), but the list would be a hell of a lot smaller, in my opinion. Not too many 130-140 pounders all-time I'd make favorites over him in a match. At welterweight, there's a lot more and double that for Marquez.
     
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  4. LOK

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    Yeah, but REED was Never EVER Impressed w/Margarita in the 1st Place, as his Posting History will Validate...Shane EXPOSED him for the CHEATER that he Was, but that Win was More about Margarita's LIMITATIONS than Anything Else...Floyd Beating Marquez @ 147 Carries About as Much Weight as Roy Jones Beating Vinny Paz @ 168...Not Much...



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    Neil Doesn't REALLY Believe that, it just SOUNDS Good...



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  7. Neil

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    i really believe it, and have said it repeatedly.
     
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    Calling JM Marquez "Better, Greater & More Accomplished" than Floyd Mayweather Ranks Up there w/Your Notion of Andre Miller Being a Hall of Fame Caliber Basketball Player, for Sheer ABSURDITY...




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  9. Neil

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    when did i say andre miller is a hall of fame caliber basketball player?
     
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  10. REEDsART

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    You Called him an HOF'er, a Legend, or Something like that...



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  11. Neil

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    i never called him a hall of famer. no need to make shit up. top 10 all time assists in nba history tho
     
    Neil, May 17, 2013
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    well andre miller started in place of tywon lawson and the nuggets beat the clippers. this basically proves andre miller is a legend ​
     
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  13. Captain Obvious

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    Saul Alvarez is nicknamed "Canelo', which means "Cinnamon".
     
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  14. Neil

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    yup exactly. never called him a hall of fame caliber player.
     
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    No, because if Paz had then gone on to KO Calzaghe with one punch, that would change things.
     
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    Less so if Calzaghe had been a tiny guy at the weight Paz had already gone tooth and nail with 4 divisions below. Less so again if Paz had been small & fat against Jones then built likea shit house against Calzaghe.
     
    Hut*Hut, May 22, 2013
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    Marquez KO'ed a FELLOW FORMER FEATHERWEIGHT w/1 Punch...If Paz had Gone On to Do LIKEWISE (by KO'ing a Former LIGHTWEIGHT), it'd B the Same...Calzaghe DOESN'T Fit the Analogy...




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    REEDsART, May 22, 2013
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  18. REEDsART

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    RE-Post from SEVERAL Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaays Ago...

    You Called him an HOF'er, a Legend, or Something like that...
     
    REEDsART, May 22, 2013
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    This is the one I responded to
     
    Neil, May 22, 2013
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  20. mikE

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    Gosh damn. Pacquiao is just a little guy who basically sucked. He had moved up in weight. Why did anyone even give a shit about him fighting Floyd? It's not like he had a chance.

    The only reason the analogy isn't better is because Calzaghe wasn't considered Roy's equal when Roy whipped Paz, not because of Pacquiao's flaws. Pacquiao was in everyone's top 3 p4p when Marquez starched him and in many's #1 spot.

    As far as Marquez being built differently when he fought Pacquiao, sure he was juiced like a Florida orchard against Pacquiao and didn't appear to be vs Floyd, but so many around here think steroids don't help a boxer, does it really matter? Anyway, for purposes of the analogy, let's assume that Paz got all muscular when he ko'd Calzaghe with one punch after losing to Roy.

    Yeah, I know.
     
    mikE, May 22, 2013
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    Roids or not Pacquiao would have been KO'd by that same punch he walked(ran) directly into.
     
    whiskey, May 22, 2013
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    exactly. He got caught with one of the best, most perfectly times punches i have ever seen. I think Mayweather or Marquez would have been knocked out by that punch too.
     
    Anthony, May 22, 2013
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    gratist punch of are times
     
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    Marquez is the best fighter of the past 25 years. Pazienza is probably the illegitimate father of a jersey shore participant
     
    Neil, May 22, 2013
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  25. whiskey

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    Exactly. If a middleweight with a decent punch hit Marvin Hagler the same way he would have at least hit the canvas.
     
    whiskey, May 22, 2013
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  26. cdogg187

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    There's just no way this is true
     
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  27. mikE

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    Like I said, so many around here don't think PEDs help a fighter.

    Imo, that's like arguing that weight classes and stamina don't matter, but whatever.
     
    mikE, May 22, 2013
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  28. cdogg187

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    are there that many people here who think PEDs don't help a fighter?

    seems common sense that they would
     
    cdogg187, May 22, 2013
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  29. REEDsART

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    Nope...

    You Responded TWICE...Post# 281, Homey...




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    Here's the Thing...

    Marquez & Pac Moooooooooooved Up....Vinny Paz Moooooooooooooved Up...Joe Calzaghe DIDN'T...He was a NATURAL Supermiddle...In No Way, Shape or Form is Calzaghe Analogous to Marquez-Pac...



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