Mayweather Jr. vs Alvarez 152lbs September 14th

agREED...

REED Doubts it Surpasses Floyd-Dela, but Floyd-Canelo will Be 1 of the BIGGER PPV's of All Time...Probably Top 5, in Terms of Buys....




REED:hammert:

 

i think it will easily become the clear cut 2nd biggest ever. non heavyweight i mean

 

Nah, Boxing's DYING...Didn't You KNOW???...The Interest just ISN'T There, Neil....



REED:hammert:

 

the popularity of boxing is judged by one main factor. the amount of prostitutes in the MGM lobby for a fight. i think that this bout will prove that boxing is flourishing.

 

Floyd is ripe for the taking here.

I'm going with Alvarez.

 

:bears:

folks I just checked with mike rossman, and he has confirmed that the betting line for the fight which opened at mayweather jr. -250 alvarez +210 has now swung to alvarez -900 and mayweather jr. +750 based on this revelation.

 

I disagree. LET'S FIGHT ABOUT IT I'LL KICK YOUR ASS!!!!

 

Where are people getting this "Floyd is there for the taking" stuff from? He looked vulnerable against Cotto, who gave a good, spirited homeless man's Duran impression - but he looked super sharp against Guerrero. Guerrero is a solid enough fighter, who knows how to fight, he's not a scrub.

 

Robert is a lot smaller than Canelo and was never a threat to Mayweather at any time in that fight.

If this kid hits Floyd just right to the side, he can crack one of his ribs and stop him.

 

CLEMENTE??S?S?S?S

 

Guerrero "BERTO'ed" his Way Into the Fight...Doesn't Mean he Really DESERVED it Though...Floyd CHERRYPICKED Guerrero...In this Case, Floyd HAS to Fight Canelo...

Yes, Floyd Conjured Up a SPRY Performance vs. Guerrero, but REED Thinks the Cotto Fight is MORE Indicative of What Floyd has Left...Canelo will Show Us JUST WHERE Floyd is, in that Regard...



REED:fightme:

 

Surely you are not comparing Cotto and Guerrero? Cotto is a bigger harder hitting more aggressive fighter.

 

Fair enough. I know Guerrero was never really a threat, but he is fairly crafty and knows how to fight, and isn't THAT small. He didn't look totally undersized like Marquez, who literally looked like a flabby featherweight against Floyd.

And REED it's tricky because those 2 fights were right next to each other and he did look pretty different in them.

I guess it's possible that Gurrardo made Floyd look particularly good, as he pretty much let Floyd fight exactly the kind of fight he wanted, and never really pushed Floyd and made him uncomfortable as Cotto did.

Personally I don't think Canelo is capable of really pressuring Floyd, which is his only chance of winning. He is too lazy and too patient.

Still an interesting fight though, I'm hoping Canelo does give a spirited enough effort to bully Floyd and bash him up a bit.

 

Yeah I think Cotto is much better than Gurrero, and bigger too obviously.

It is undeniable that Floyd looked sharp and fast against Robert, but like I said it might purely be down to Rob letting him exactly the fight he wanted.

 

One PPV = the whole sport of boxing? When Floyd retires nobody will come close to doing the numbers he's been going.

 

He fought stupid, he tried to box and was not very aggressive. Canelo will be putting the pressure on and bullying Floyd.

 

Since when is Alvarez a pressure fighter?

 

I hope so, I just don't think he's as good at it as Cotto is to be honest. He is lazy in the ring, takes too much time off, and is even more patient than Cotto. I expect him to get pot shotted senseless as he follows Floyd around waiting to time Floyd with a perfect shot.

If he really goes for it he could make things interesting, but he'd have to be way more spirited and gung ho than he usually is in the ring. He is not really a pressure fighter.

 

He isn't. He's actually more of a counter puncher. Cotto did a pretty good impression of a pressure fighter against Floyd, and Alvarez would have to do the same to stand any chance at all.

 

I'm not saying he is, I'm saying that is how he will fight a smaller more mobile man.

 

What makes you think so? We all know he SHOULD, obviously, but not many fighters can go against their usual style and instinct to such a degree.

 

dont listen to *Z*ima he said guerrero would give mayweather jr a tough fight. yadda yadda

 

I picked Mayweather by UD. I said he wouldn't stop Guerrero and he didn't and won a UD just like I said.

 

:atu: played out just as you anticipated eh?

 

Neil who has the bigger chode?

 

maybe if you go spar with alvarez in santa monica you can sneak a peek at his ginger johnson, brutha

 

Floyd obviously knows Canelo is a legit threat. No other reason for the catch weight. This will be Floyds toughest fight since Judah.

 

I was arguing in the prediction thread with people saying Floyd was going to stop him or he would bitch up and run. He didn't get stopped and he didn't turn bitch and run or just try to survive. So yeah, pretty much exactly what I thought. He was game but in over his head.

 

Ugh. Catchweights blow. But I guess that's the price we have to pay to see Mayweather take on someone with a shot of winning.

 

They do put a bit of a sour taste in my mouth as well. I'll at least try to play devil's advocate for this and say it's not Leonard vs Lalonde bad. Demanding a champion (when it wasn't completely irrelevant) come down an entire weight division to fight for their title is unacceptable.

This is only a couple of pounds and will very likely not make a difference in the outcome. I think the gain in size between the weigh in and fight night is a legit boxing issue. What nobody believes (apart from those on his payroll or their lips on his penis) is that Mayweather is making any of these stipulations for anybody but himself. Different method of steroid testing, and now the weight. Next time it will be the size of the gloves or the type of lighting at the venue.

Floyd is all about cleaning up boxing. :wack: