Mayweather Jr. vs Alvarez 152lbs September 14th

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  1. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    :lol:

    God dammit, Z.
     
  2. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Floyd obviously feels Canelo is a bigger threat or he'd have agreed to 154 like he did with Cotto. Cotto may not be shot, but he's had plenty of bad beatings, even winning the fight with one eyed Margarito he didn't escape without taking some damage.
     
  3. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Trout beat Cotto easy.
     
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    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Floyd fans are funny. Sorry man, I just call it like I see it.
     
  5. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Floyd fans. :lol:

    You call it down one side, like a good little fanboy.
     
  6. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It's not that I'm a fanboy, it's that I hate Floyd and when ever anything is said about Floyd Pac is brough up in response. One cannot be talked about without the other. It's not love for Pac, it's hate for Floyd and his dumbfuck fans who will defend anything he does.
     
  7. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Just like when I was a ODLH fan when I was hating on Tito all the time back in the day. I wasn't, but that's the label you get for hating on his rival.
     
  8. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

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    yeah, but all you do is make excuses for Pac... you are totally a fanboy
     
  9. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    Or he feels alvareZ is a bigger and heavier fighter than cotto
     
  10. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Like what excuses exactly? Just because I don't asssume he's on steroids?
     
  11. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    This post is so amazingly stupid.


    1. Dropping water weight in reasonable amounts (varies on a person-to-person basis, both Trout & Canelo weighed in the 170s on fight night for their bout) on a day-before weigh-in is not going to have an adverse effect on the performance of a 22 year old fighter

    2. "mass doesn't matter a jot" is an unbelievably stupid thing to say. Floyd is a vastly superior fighter to Vitali Klitschko, who do you think would win if they fought? What doesn't matter is bulking up to an unnatural size for your frame/body. Diego Corrales was 6'0," he would've gotten merked by any semi-decent light heavy. Canelo belongs in another weight division from Floyd.
     
  12. loadedgloves

    loadedgloves "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    this

    ward would obviously ruin canelo, people forget what kind of feat it is nowadays to fight the top level fighters in a division you actually belong in naturally
     
  13. REEDsART

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    The Fact that You're INCAPABLE of Bringing Yourself to Acknowledging Pac was PROBABLY On Roids, @ the VERY Least...Where there's SMOKE, there's Usually Fire...

    Pac's Ass has Been on the Grill Waaaaaay PAST the Point of SMOKE, Bro...




    REED:hammert:
     
  14. Hut*Hut

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    honestly i don't see any more - or less - reason to suspect Pac of roiding than anyone else. His style's very suited to fighting bigger, slower guys.

    He's probably roiding - but everybody's probably roiding.
     
  15. Irish

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    And nobody wants to be the first to get caught/quit.
     
  16. Hut*Hut

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    It would have been hilarious if Floyd's failed test and been made (properly) public.
     
  17. *Z*

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    Exactly.
     
  18. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I don't accuse people of things when there is no proof of it. Simple as that. He could be taking something, I don't know and neither does anyone else.
     
  19. REEDsART

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    Consider THE WEIGHTS Pac has Moved Up From, the FACT he's MAINTAINED Speed & Power Every Step of the Way AND he's Shown Up @ these Drastically Higher Weights RIPPED as Fuck???...

    REED Could Add Pac's IMPROVED Punch Resistance (Up Until Marquez IV), as Well...There's a REASON we've NEVER Seen Another former FLYWEIGHT Be as DESTRUCTIVE & DOMINANT @ 147 & Into the 150's, as Pac has Been....

    REED:hammert:
     
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    You WANT To Believe he Isn't, Therefore you INSIST Upon CONCRETE Evidence to the Contrary, as if BYPASSING the 50Mil Payday to Fight Mayweather WASN'T Enough...All Pac Had to Do was Submit to RANDOM Drug Testing...If he WASN'T Juicing, what's the Big Deal????...





    REED:hammert:
     
  21. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I don't know what to tell you REED, I'm just not convinced. Like I said he MIGHT be taking something, I don't know that he is and neither does anyone else.
     
  22. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    Like the FANBOY's You Hate, You GRANT Pac (a Fighter you LIKE) More of a PASS than You Do Floyd (A Fighter You HATE)...It's Really THAT Simple...




    REED:hammert:
     
  23. Hut*Hut

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    There's been about as much change in Floyd's physique over the last 5-7 years as in Pac's.
     
  24. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I guess by not accusing him of steroids with no proof I am giving him a pass? Sure I like Pac, he's an exciting fighter. I don't give a shit about him other than watching his fights which are usually pretty good.
     
  25. REEDsART

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    Pac Came from a MUCH LOWER Weight Class, Bro...Floyd's TALLER....

    It's VERY UNUSUAL for a Guy to Move Up as DRASTICALLY as Pac, yet MAINTAIN Mobility, Flexibility, Speed AND POWER...Pac HASN'T Regressed in ANY of those Regards...

    JM Marquez was a FAT Fuck when he Faced Floyd...Dela was a FAT FUCK when he Faced Sperm...Even "The Duran", as you Call him, was a Short, CHUBBY Fuck, from Welter-Jr. Middle, ONWARDS...Shit, even Roy Jones Carried MORE Bodyfat than EVER Before, when he Bulked Up to Face Ruiz...

    There's MORE than Enough Reasonable DOUBT...



    REED:hammert:
     
  26. Hut*Hut

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    His actual in-ring scale weight has barely changed from his super-featherweight days to now. He's certainly filled out because he isn't starving himself to make weight but the remarkable aspect of his exploits has been how successful his style has been against bigger, stronger men who still outweigh him by allot - not any huge gains in muscle or mass. That being the case the retained speed isn't an issue.....and to the best of my knowledge no known steroid improves your punch resistance (not cutting weight might tho).
     
  27. *Z*

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    No Manny did not come up from a lower weight class. When both guys were 16, they both weighed 106lbs. Only Pac was a pro at 16 and Mayweather was still an am.
     
  28. REEDsART

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    On the Other Hand, You're Amongst THE FIRST to ADMIT Floyd's the "Bigger, Taller" Guy...Can't Have it BOTH Ways, Z...







    REED:wack:
     
  29. *Z*

    *Z* WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Don't try to turn it around on me. He is taller, but I never tried to claim they shouldn't fight eachother because Floyd was bigger.
     
  30. REEDsART

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    No, you Use Floyd's "Size Advantage" to Call him a WUSS for Not Facing Pacquiao, but NOW, when REED is Talking about How DRASTICALLY Pac has Moved Up Thru the Weights, You're Trying to LIKEN Floyd & Pac, in Terms of Size...

    How Convenient...



    REED:hammert:
     

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