Biggest EUROPEAN Threat to a PRIME Roy Jones???...

Don't you know? Roy Jones would take out Calzaghe in the same round as Vinny Paz....6 rounds...someone already made that predicition...LOL

 

no he wouldnt have. because calzaghe has a decent chin and wouldve went into a shell when faced with the speed and power of jones jr.

 

Exactly.

 

Beat me to it, Neil is right. I think it would have been an embarrassing affair for Joe, but he undoubtedly would've heard the final bell. Pure shit went 12 with Roy when he was the man.

 

Vinny Paz didn't go into a shell and lasted 6 in one of the more entertaining 1 sided fights you will see. Why would Calzaghe go into into a shell? Ridiculous prediction

 

have you only seen fights involving italians?

 

No...I have seen almost every fight there is...stopped watching alot though the last several years

 

what relevance does the pazienza fight have? he's a fucking pyscho with no regard for his own well being. you do realize jones jr faced plenty of guys far better than pazienza who he tamed and caused to go into a shell to survive?? what makes you think calzaghe would go balls out in the face of the incoming and have a suicide wish like that rhode island roid baby?

 

Well if it has been said here, by the right people, then hey........I guess that's that.

 

What you makes think he will??? It's amazing how you trot our your own base opinion with such presumptuous veracity, and then caution others for doing likewise.

In any event, Jones is few solid KO's from the Gerarld McClellan School of Nursing Homes, so......I think its fair to say Calzaghe remains the more successful of the pair. I wouldn't regard Jones as being very successful right now.

 

Because Calzaghe brings more to the table then Tony Thornton, Antione Byrd, weight drained Merqui Sosa, Bryant Brennan, and Eric Lucas...this would have been a super fight at 168....the poll was which euro fighter would have done the best job against A prime Roy which is supposed to be at 168...I think it's Calzaghe

 

Preach it Irish

 

As I've said before, Calzaghe might not win a single round but would lose the rounds by not a whole load. Calzaghe is easily the single smartest fighter Jones ever faced. This "shell" nonsense, as well as the utterly irrelevant "Jones smashed guys Joe struggled with".......it's superfluous adipose verbiage. George Foreman smashed guys Ali struggled with. Hurricane Carter smashed guys that Gene Fullmer or Benny Paret struggled with. Anyone can play that game. David Haye smashed guys that Vitali had difficulty with.

Again, I see Roy winning clearly, but by the time the fight was over, it would be Jones who found himself subject to a re-evaluation, given that Calzaghe wouldn't be coming into the fight with any respect to begin with.

Oh and Lacy...:: Amazing how bad Lacy became overnight. Jones smashed him easier than Joe did too. ::

 

It is logical for me to do so, because I am John McLaughlin and you are Eleanor Clift

 

Again, and just so you know, the Calzaghe camp themselves said, back in the very late 1990's that Joe would have to improve and Jones would have to slip up for Joe to have any chance of winning.

I don't think its fit and proper to indulge Joe with notions of just going in there and winning handily, but by that same token the people who want to pick Roy, as valid and as realistic as that pick is, should do it for reasons based more on reasonable assumption rather than vacuous, glib, cute presumption.

Calzaghe suffered a lot with injuries, hence some of his poorer performances. Robin Reid was one of them.......who was Roy Jones facing in or around the same period? Richard Frazier and Otis Grant. So to pull the Reid fight out and use it against anyone is completely unhelpful and indulgent. Jones beat Reid with one hand.

When Joe was fit and healthy, he destroyed Lacy. Lacy therefore becomes overrated and crap. Pointless arguing with these people.

 

i saw jeff lacy struggle mightily with "The Alien" at the playboy mansion prior to him facing calzaghe.

 

I don't remember any mention of that come April 2006.

I actually re-registered and posted here for the first time in two years or so, as "Slapper Joe", just to rub it in.

This place was moribund as fuck when it happened. It was like Cupey had died and bequeathed the forum to Hanz and Lok.

Shock and anger reigned in equal, twin doses.

 

the reason many people were tabbing the limited lacy was because of how shitty calzaghe had been looking against shitty competition.

 

Irish...I think Calzaghe is just a sensitive issue for people. A Joe Calzaghe in his retirement USA fight tour beat the living hell out of Roy Jones who was past his prime but probably still a top 10 to top 15 llight heavy at the time. I wonder how many people predicted him to win in this forum against Joe and when he lost to Calzaghe he all of a sudden became a completely shot corpse of a human being

 

joe king picked jones jr over calzaghe, he was about the only one.

 

7 pages of revisionist history , peeps must be bored

 

Oh Hai Der Mister Revisionist Bullshit Artisto......'Murica Mentality reigned supreme here until around 3 completed stanzas when Lacy was having fuck kicked out of him. Much like the bullshit posited in this thread, Lacy was going to go over there and for reasons which were never satisfactorily explained, was going to kick absolute fuck out of Calzaghe.

Lacy battering Joe was based as much on fuck all as the current "chase Joe into a shell" suppositions are.

 

it is pointless

 

:mut:

 

I wasn't around here at the time the fight took place, but I can't imagine anyone picking Jones. Man, he was fucking terrible going into that fight. You may be right that some nuthugger picked him, but that version of Roy Jones at that time was cringeworthy at best. Still put Joe on his ass though...LOL.

 

It's as recurring as it is double-ended.

Bernard Hopkins gets better with every win. His opponents aren't lesser, its just they ran into the ATG that is Bernard.

However, lose to Joe Calzaghe and not only does YOUR stock plummet, his own barely even stabilizes at its previous levels.

It's some sort of one way, Kohmmunist Murican system where prices of foreign goods plummet and homebaked Murican stuff takes on priceless values.

 

The only truly cringeworthy aspects of that fight were

1. Max Kellermans commentary- amazingly bad, but valueless in that it remains a perfect mirror of the worthlessness of the man.

2. The inability of the truly inept Jones corner to stop the bleeding.

 

this debate needs to be taken to Paltalk :Thumb:

 

Agreed on #1.

#2 isn't far off either. It wasn't the Tyson-Douglas corner sans enswell, but glove filled with tap water fiasco. But yeah, Jr. was a bit compromised.

 

It's a good discussion...and one with some passion. Boxing matchup comparisons to me trump all in the way of discussion. You can try to talk '97 Bulls vs. '13 Heat or '27 Yankees vs. '75 Reds all day, just doesn't have the same juice.