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    Weidman is good, but I agree with Z, he looked to be fading (ironically) before KOing Silva. I was confident at that point that Silva would take over. Weidman seemed to be losing some steam and confidence.

    Credit to him though, he capitalised in a big way on Silva's absurd clowning.
     
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    What's really crazy to me is when silva was clowning...Weismann throws some sloppy shots and silva SHOULD have countered over them very bizarre to me that he didn't
     
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    Cool, now all you have to do is show the evidence. Especially since Weidman landed the more significant and harder shots in the first and second round. :lol:

    He had silva up against the cage landed blows on him. Rocking silva's head back on more than one occasions. Silva never did that to Weidman. Well, my proof is in the gifs. I could post the fight for you if you want.
     
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    Well i meant when they were standing but you are correct. The last one was a graze.

    There is also a point where Weidman had silva up against the cage landed hard shots on his dome.
     
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    Watch the fight again. I dont see how Weidman was fading. His intensity was up and he was throwing combinations and kicks. But whatever

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    I have the fight and I'll watch it again. My impression was genuinely that Silva was taking over in the 2nd round, I was pretty sure he'd win at that point, especially seeing as he wasn't getting taken down.
     
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    Silva wasnt landing anything.
     
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    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Looks like the rematch is official, UFC 168 at the end of December. Rousey vs Tate is the co-main event.

    Look for this PPV to come pretty damn close to break the UFC PPV buy record, if not break it completely.

    TFK
     
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    What happened to Andy not wanting a rematch? :lol:

    Who are you guys picking?
     
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    I'm going with Silva in dominating fashion. Though Weidman won the first, I just didn't see anything special in him that would make me feel the re would be competitive. He showed determination, but many fighters do until they get drowned by the big fish. I'd read the hype about him, and saw how guys here spoke him up to be a beast, but I just don't see it. Had Silva not taken a rematch, Weidman would not have defended his title more than two wins.
     
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    They need one more big match to do that.
     
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    Silva will dominate him like he is a drunken hooker
     
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    Silva Takes Weidman MUCH More Seriously, an EMBOLDENED Weidman Looks to 1nce Again Beat Silva @ his OWN GAME (Stand Up), but Gets KO'ed @ the End of Round 2/Early Round 3, Setting Up THE BIGGEST Fight in UFC History, Silva-Weidman III...




    REED:popcorn:
     
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    Some guy on Sherdog translated an interview with one of Silva's coaches.


    After all this controversy, the question remains: What happened to Anderson?

    In my view he his lost focus in the fight, and when he was going to try to hit him, it was too late. His coaches called him on his clowning after the 1st round and he got lost. Afterwards he apologized: "I lost, I could not hit [him]". We all know what happens when your head is not focusing on the fight.

    And why was Anderson's head out of the fight?

    He started to showboat too much, and when that starts it's because there's something bothering him. Too much clowning around. He got the distance wrong and was hit on his face by a left cross. The guy saw it and went on. It's normal, but when you clown around like that, you have to dodge with your legs, not moving your body backwards.

    Do you think he was disrespectful towards Weidman?
    I think he crossed the line. It was disrespectful to the other athlete and to the people who were in his corner too: Ramon Lemos, Feijao, Pedro Rizzo and Edelson Silva (Cesario was watching in the audience). As a coach, I can't take something like that, I can't support it. We try to minimize what happened, but we have to tell the truth. Maybe he didn't want to disrespect him. In some way he was trying to make the other guy forget about his game plan, but he crossed the line and, meanwhile, lost himself. I won't say it's right, because it isn't. You can't support an athlete in this situation.


    We saw a video showing a very emotional Anderson after the fight. Talk about this moment.

    He repented, he lost his focus and ended up not knowing what to do.
    Three months of work were thrown away. Anderson is a complicated person, there are a lot of things surrounding him.
    We recently had a problem at the gym and I told him: "Anderson you get your livelihood from your hands, your legs. Don't listen to other people. You're not a Hollywood star. Do not forget from where you came, what you've been through. You're the UFC champion. You're a star in the UFC, but outside of there you're the simplest guy you can be. You're this good and humble guy, I don't understand what's going on with you lately"
    As I'm one of his oldest coaches here in Rio, he listens to me. [Cesario has been Silva's coach for the last 7 years]. And he asked: "Do you really think so, master?" and I said: "Of course! It was ungraceful. I don't know what you're doing, but the success is up to your head and bringing your humility down". He was sad when I told him, but he agreed.



    What problem was that?

    With a student of ours, but I'd rather not say anything about it to avoid another problem.


    He did the same against Demian Maia (2010), repented and said he would not do it again, but he did. Do you think he will do it again?

    In Abu Dhabi things got ugly. Maia has a heavy hand and he connected a punch during the 5th round and Anderson lost himself. Demian won the last round, even tho he was hurt. It was a lesson. Anderson repented, but after 3 fights it happened again. But now the damage and the costs were a lot higher.
    He won't go through this again. If he still wants to fight, he will have to change his ways. Everyone can commit mistakes, but this one cost him dearly.


    Was Anderson shaken by losing the belt?
    He felt bad, it was even worse because of all these people saying crap about how he earned money. That's nonsense. A real athlete would never do something like that. Earn money to lose the belt? Out of the question. I work with him for more than 7 years.


    What did you tell him after the fight?
    He asked me and said he was ready to listen: "I fucked up".
    Saying something now won't change anything. What has to be said will be said in Rio when he returns to his training. A lot of things will have to change. He has to stop with all this showboating (seems like he is criticizing the excessive showboating, not his regular one...)
    Now he has 40 coaches, and each one has a different opinion. Anderson has only one mind. There's no reason to give a thousand information, it doesn't work. In the old days there were few of them, and it worked.



    Did the team reprimand him?
    Feijao did, said he should stop clowning around, because he was playing too much. At that moment someone should've slapped his face, then he would stop acting like a child. Unfortunately, no one in his corner was man enough to do that. The BJJ kid (Ramon Lemos) also told him to stop. When he started to do that, I was sitting with Rogerio (Silva's fitness coach) and told him shit was going to happen. He told me "no, he knows what he is doing".
    When he came back and talked to the guy (provoking Weidman) before the second round, I told him Anderson had lost his focus. Then everything happened.



    Do you think all of these people surrounding Anderson are harming him?
    In the last fights I think it did. Too much information. He needs to have focus and some things do the exact opposite. I think there's no need to have so many people. There are people with a lot less and they have the belt. On the other hand, Anderson likes it, what can I do? In my opinion there are people who should not be there. It hurts him, but he is the boss, right?


    Do you think we'll see a rematch? 2013 or 2014?

    He will take the belt back, that's for sure. He promised. This fight will happen in February. At the moment he doesn't want to fight (the rematch), he wasn't being able to deal with the pressure. He comes from a humble family. He would fight to fulfill his contract and would stop this war for the belt. He is doing other things, he is tired.


    Do you believe in a different Anderson in the rematch?
    I believe it will be 100% different. He will finish this guy. Anderson came back in the 2nd round and kept playing. He should've ended the fight. He was hit by a little jab and the guy felt more confident. He landed a cross and, by what he said afterwards, he didn't even believe it.
    It wasn't due to lack of work antics. That guy doesn't have enough "baggage" (history, experience, knowledge) to beat Anderson. If Anderson fight for real, the fight won't even see a 3rd round.
     
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    i expect weidman to win. it's gonna be difficult for silva to land his striking considering weidman's ability to use his takedowns at close quarters. aside from leg kicks, i didn't see anything silva did that could force weidman to retreat or walk into counters like silva's previous opponents did. plus, weidman's the guy coming off this WIN and his confidence level should be higher while the same can't be said for silva who was knocked out badly.
     
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    Well that is the thing Joony. If Anderson doesnt keep his hands down, there is no way he can stop Weidman's takedowns.
     
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    GF, I take it you're picking Wideboy too?
     
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    Yeah i picked weidman the first time, i will pick him for the rematch. He Weidman hadnt knocked him out he would have eventually took him down and pounded like he did in round 1.
     
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    Silva is going to make him look like a hooker on heroin
     
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    Many people picked Weidman, he kicks Silva's ass, and now people are over-thinking, I think.

    I predicted a maia-type win for Silva. He did some kicking in rd 2 that made that prediction seem possible, but weidman really didn't have any trouble with him.

    Weidman is the clear pick in the rematch. Btw, when did the pronunciation go from weedman to wideman?
     
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    Its always been Wideman hasnt it?
     
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    The spider is going to make him his girlfriend
     
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    Silva will beat the living cum out his cock. Right LOK?
     
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    Basically
     

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