Ben Affleck to Play Batman in The Man of Steel Sequel...

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    It was a reboot. Just like James Bond got a reboot and Star Trek got a reboot. Superman & Spiderman got a reboot too. Fantastic Four will get a reboot. Is all about repackaging the same product in a different wrap to the mass audiences. How many actors played James Bond? Some were more successful than others, but ultimately is the same product that keeps being reintroduced. If Affleck stinks the joint, the studio will replace him. Or maybe Affleck will quit after just one donning of the mask & cape. Still the character will survive. This movie is going to be HUGE and by that I mean making Avengers box office numbers. The average moviegoer don't give a damn about who plays Batman, but if the film is entertaining and delivers on its premise. Most people I talk to that loved The dark knight don't know who is Christian Bale...only when I remind them he played Batman.
     
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    A reboot is different than a Respite, which is what you initially said. A reboot is done because the original series is dead and now it's time to make a new one. For instance, Superman returns was a respite of the original Superman 1-4 movies. That would be considered a respite. But Man of Steel is a reboot. Totally different. That is not the same as Star Trek and James Bond. James Bond was never rebooted. All of those James Bonds previously are still part of the movie. There have just been many 007s. You have to have different actors when you have a franchise going on for 40 years. The Dark Knight was based off a totally different batman character that Burton based his off of. It is a brand knew franchise, not having shit to do with The previous Batman movies. All the Bond movies and star Trek movies all have ties to each other. This doesnt. And now you have Affleck coming in and taking over the reigns for not just superman, but everything batman from here on out. So please dont tell me it's more than just a a man in a mask.

    This will completely ruin the character just like it did in the 90s. Which is why people are pissed. Dont you get that?
    Bullshit. Which is why there are so many articles about it. And dont try to tell me for one second that nobody knew who bale is. He is only one of the biggest stars in Hollywood and they were willing to pay him 50 million dollars to return.
     
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    Aw come on! Casino Royale was a freaking reboot just like Goldeneye was a reboot after a six years respite since License To Kill. They reinvented Bond from the very beginning in Casino Royale. This was an origins story just like Batman Begins. Same with 2009 Star Trek. Same with The Amazing Spiderman. None of those franchises were dead. the Batman character is not like Rocky that without a particular lead actor (Stallone) it will not work. The average person don't give a hoot about who plays Bruce Wayne, they just want to see a guy in costume doing good action scenes. Bale by himself is not as big as lets say Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp in the recognition factor. Bale can't open a film by himself unless he plays Batman. Bale is first foremost a dramatic actor who doesn't want to be forever stereotyped as a comicbook character like it happened to Christopher Reeve. He made money and now he wants out and like Reeve he will be starring in films most people will not watch.
     
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    Wrong again. Watch the movie again. They specifically speak about 007s not lasting too long. They arent the same characters.

    The nolan batman is based off the dark knight series by frank Miller. There are different batman comics out there where batman is not the same. Just like they have different versions of the joker.
    Two different things. Star Trek is telling part of the story that has never been told before. It's not a reboot. It's a whole different direction. Spider man is nothing but a reboot. The toby maguire franchise is dead.
    Clearly that is not the case since they offered Bale 50 mil for the role. Im sure ben didnt get that much.
    Which should tell you how good he is in the role and how people want him there. Again, 50 million. Let me know when pit gets offered 50 million for anything.
    . Had Nolan asked Bale to return he would have.

    You need to understand that The batman from the 80s and 90s is not the same batman from the nolan movies. Two different versions of Batman. Just like in the comics there are different versions of him.
     
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    I think it's hilarious people are freaking out over Affleck.

    They should get this guy to star in the movie.



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    No, my good friend, you are mistaken: Casino Royale was a reboot. It was all over the media particularly when Daniel Craig was hired. He didn't continued the further adventures of Pierce Brosnan's Bond; this was when he finally got the License to kill. Watch the movie again which is how the movie ends.



    I already said that.
    It is a reboot. It was announced as such and perceived as such. 2009 Star Trek reintroduces the same characters with a completely different timeline thus the new film no longer abides by the old series canon which has infuriated hardcore fans who recently choose Star Trek Into Darkness as THE most hated film of the franchise. The 2009 reboot came after a seven year respite since Star Trek Nemesis had bombed badly at the box office (only $68 million worldwide). How can you say that the Spiderman franchise was dead with the last Tobey Maguire film grossing a whooping $890.8 million worldwide? The reasons for the reboot are still an enigma to most observers. Maybe because the film had mixed reviews and earned a little less than the other two?

    Have you heard the Hollywood term of 'Formula'? Warner wanted Bale because he is considered one of the main ingredients in the Dark Knight recent formula, but ultimately what they want more is Nolan's involvement (he is the producer after all). But they can still have Affleck (cheaper actor) in the Man of Steel sequel and if Nolan one day decides to do another Dark Knight then Bale can comeback. Did they hired Tom Wellington of Smallville fame as Kal-El? Nope. They got Henry Cavill and only hardcore Smallville fans protested. Anyone can be replaced. Even after Connery left the Bond franchise other actors followed.

    I know that very well, but it is still Batman.
     
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    I wonder if anybody remembers that Affleck portrayed George Reeves in a film not too long ago.

    Not a ground breaking statement I realize, but it just dawned on me.
     
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    He must have read the script.

    Ditto for Kilmer after obviously not reading the first Batman script he did.

    Both of those Batmen films are completely unwatchable. I'd sit through 8 viewings of Daredevil and would even watch Catwoman for the first time before you could get me to watch Batman Forever and Batman & Robin.

    Anyway, I think Affleck will do fine. If the film is written well it should be no problem. If it's directed well the director should be able to set Ben up for success. Anyway who really gives a shit who plays Batman, I mean its only fucking Batman, he doesn't even have any powers. He's a lame superhero and the only thing that made the last Batman franchise so great was the writing, directing, and the great performances of the secondary actors. To be honest IMO Bale didn't even stand out all that much as some kind of great Batman/Bruce Wayne. He did a good job, nothing more, but you switch him with Affleck you got the same damn movie, only difference is Bruce Wayne has better hair.
     
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    Yes, he did and also got great reviews.
     
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    BINGO! You nailed it. Keaton was offered a lot of money, but he turned it down for various reasons: one was that he didn't liked the light (read CAMPY) tone of the new script and that again the villains were getting bigger roles than his character. Another was that with Burton out of the director chair he wasn't so comfortable with Joel Schumaker as the helmer and finally, he was very vocal about his fears of being typecasted as Batman and decided that after two films that was enough for him.
    Kilmer was a complete asshole during the promotion of Batman Forever. He was whining left and right about how such a serious actor (him) never got so much media attention until he does a stupid comic book character. When he first said he will not return (maybe a bargaining chip), the studio was more than pleased to replace him.

    Many great films had actors doing so-so performances and still were not detrimental to its stature in the eyes of audiences and critics. Affleck at least can act, but if they had hired a Thomas Jane that is another story.
    But bottom line people will pay to see a guy in the suit and mask against Cavill's Superman. They will not care if it is Thomas Jane or Daniel Day Lewis. I never went to a movie theater to watch one of the Nolan's Batman films, but for sure I will watch this Man of Steel sequel regardless who plays Batman. This is a cinematic EVENT and people will flock to watch it.
     
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    I am reading some articles in superherohype, the official comic book nerd sanctuary website, on how Affleck landed the role and it looks like he was the only actor Snyder and Warner Bros had in mind since talks with Affleck started earlier this year, way before Man of Steel was even released. It is also reported that Affleck has started working out two hours a day to get in shape for the February 2014 shooting schedule. It is also very interesting the results of their website online poll on how fans feel about the casting of Ben Affleck as Batman: surprisingly the opinions are divided almost in half between those who states he will do fine and those that don't agree with his casting. I think that the most vocal and virulent opposition is from the Nolanites who cannot accept anyone, but Bale as Batman. These people need to take a chill pill and repeat to themselves, 'is only a movie'.
     
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    Ben Affleck will make a great Batman if the intent is to turn Batman into a whiny metrosexual
     
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    Here's the Thing...

    You Seem to CARE that Affleck Required a Stunt Double, Whereas REED Doesn't...Just GET the Job DONE...

    Also, You Could EASILY Interpret the "Stiffness" of that Scene as "Matt Murdock" Doing JUST ENOUGH to Playfully Fend Off Elecktra, w/Out Giving Away THE FACT he's Daredevil...Just as You Could EASILY Interpret it as Affleck NOT Being Athletic Enough to Pull it Off...



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    HATE to Admit it, but Affleck Looks GOOD in the Mask...



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    Shit, once Zack Snyder gets a hold of him, he won't look like Ben Affleck anymore, anyways. I must have seen Gerard Butler in at least a dozen films, and I STILL swear to myself it was some other guy who starred in "300". :lol:


    Aflac will look about 1000 times more grizzled then he does now, by the time he makes this movie.
     
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    He already started training with the same guy that goy Henry Cavill in excellent shape and the filming doesn't start until six months from now, enough time to get buffed. As for athleticism...almost all movie stars uses stuntmen to do the trick. Not everyone is a Jackie Chan or Tony Jaa.
     
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    How about Keanu Reeves as Batman? That would have been a great choice.
     
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    fans are worried about the Batman franchise being ruined even though the last one sucked :dunno:
     
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    How about John Goodman??
     
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    Oprah Winfrey would be a better batman.
     
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    John Goodman as Batman, Katt Williams as Robin & the Guy who Played "Tatoo" on "Fantasy Island", as Alfred....



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    Did you guys like man of steel?l I'm just watching it now
     
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    You're not watching a cam version are you? That is garbage. Wait till the BluRay is out.
     
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    Rosie O'Donnell as Catwoman :lol:
     
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