Kovalev vs Froch

Listen, you thick Irish fuck, I am saying already that Ward is a winner if Kovalev fights Froch, WHY? Because Ward probably beats Froch 9 times out of 10, and that if Froch fights Kovalev and WINS, then Ward gets to beat him up even easier the next time around, and this time he's beating a guy who has racked up wins over Bute, Mack, Kessler, Groves and Kovalev, and that's not going to do Ward's reputation any harm at all.

If Froch loses, then Ward gets to dismiss Kovalevs effort, as he's already beaten Froch, and did years prior, so IF it comes to the table with Kovalev, Ward would have that to offer.

Ward does well out of Kovalev vs Froch, a lot better than if he had immediately rematched Froch, for instance and a lot better than if he fought Kovalev next, as Kovalevs most recent scalp was Euro Softy Nathan Stupidly. How much money does Ward make out of fighting Kovalev now? How much money does he make out of fighting the winner of Kovalev vs Froch? The stupid Black-Irish bastard makes far more out of fighting the winner of Froch vs Kovalev than he does out fighting the winner of Kovalev vs Cleverly or Froch vs Groves.

But tell you what, I will deal the cards and you just scream Gin whenever it suits. ::

 

If Kovalev whups Froch and Ward says he wants to fight him, what will your position be then, you cantankerous Catolick???

 

That depends. If Froch beat Kovalev and beat him on the road, then I think Froch would have every right to dig his heels in when it came to money and/or location. There would come a point where Wards win over Froch would simply only carry about half the weight, because Froch would be on a ridiculous streak of Bute-Mack-Kessler-Groves-Kovalev and because Ward himself would have not got a whole load else lined up. Likewise, because Ward beat Froch, Froch would have to be somewhat pliant too. But there could be no question of either man railroading the other.

But if Kovalev beat Froch, which is the more likely scenario, and Ward said he would move up to 175 and the fight took place outside Oakland, I could have no complaints and nobody else should either. Their respective purses would be something their management would have to work out for them and it would be something I took a very tertiary interest in.

If, of course, it gets to the stage where Ward insists on fighting Kovalev in Oakland, during Black History Month, at 168, and taking 70% of the cash, then, fuck it, thats not on either.

 

why go there? you were doing fine

 

:: it reminded me of what Junior Jones manager said about Jones fight with Erik Morales, when he said he "was not confident about going to Mexico to fight a Mexican for a Mexican belt during a Mexican holiday". It was basically a way of describing a case where Ward might be making utterly ridiculous demands, stacking the deck as much in his favour as possible.

 

fair enough::

I don't think Cinco de Mayo equates with Black History Month, though... Most black folks I know are basically "yeah, great" about Black History Month

 

I would like to point out that Ward is as much white as he is black. To get any advantage to fighting during Black History Month, he's first have to know which half is black and schedule the fight accordingly.

 

You live in America, don't you?

Don't be deliberately dumb... If Andre Ward is walking down the street and someone describes him later on, they are gonna say "yeah, some black dude walking down the street" ... if pressed for more specifics, they might say he was sort of light-skinned or maybe "mixed"... but there's no place in this country where anyone is going to say "yeah, that was a white guy"

 

"The champ is a ni........"........... "I think he said the champ is near!"

 

:laughing::laughing::laughing: classic

 

Ward is as much white as he is black, probably moreso if we get technical.

You guys can laugh about racist slurs, ha ha ha, but facts are facts.

 

mikE's claimin the son of god like skip bayless claims blake griffin

 

For the record, Ward/Froch wasn't close.

 

Speaking of "Facts", do You Know what "OCTOROON" Means, mikE???...



REEDopcorn:

 

mikE is a fucking simp

 

Sure.

 

Froch came into it quite a bit at the end but he had been outclassed. If He'd had the success at the start that he was having by the 10th and 11th, he could have done a lot better. Ward said he hurt his hand, whatever the reason, he spat his shield and was hanging on. Froch was just too mechanical to get to him for too much of the fight, but clearly was tough enough to begin making inroads.

 

"Hanging On" is a bit of an exaggeration... Willie Pep in the last couple of rounds of the Saddler rematch was "hanging on"

 

Then You Should ALSO Know that Since Slavery, Any "Mixed" Person Found to Be Octoroon, Quadroon or Half & Half was AUTOMATICALLY Designated (& TREATED) as BLACK...That's a FACT...

Despite yet Another Serving of your Contrarian BULLSHIT, Andre Ward is Indeed BLACK...


reeD:shit:

 

But he's not. He's no more than 1/2 black. I know this may be a revelation to you, but contrarian views aren't wrong because they are contrarian. Then again, saying Andre Ward is 1/2 white isn't being contrarian, saying he's black is. That would be an example of a contrarian view being 1/2 right and 1/2 wrong.

 

Shut the fuck up

What matters is perception... In every day life, Andre Ward is a black man in America

Nobody was saying "hey wait a minute, I think this guy's grandpa was a white slaveowner" when any one of the dozens upon dozens of BLACK men denied due process and hunted down and lynched with dozens, sometimes hundreds of cheering people looking on throughout the late 19th century and deep into the 20th century were being done to death... It's a bunch of bullshit to suddenly act like it is different now simply because race has become more insidious

Andre Ward is BLACK in America, just like Alicia Keys is BLACK... Perception defines the issue, not DNA... It is Social, it is not Biological.

 

this smuG bastarD loves the smell of his own fartS

 

Absolutely...

Type of Motherfucker that Farts in Bed, then Pulls the Covers Over his Head, So he Can SMELL It...




REEDopcorn:

 

No doubt... He Dutch Ovens himself nightly

 

Settle down, boys. You can take turns putting your noses in my asshole if that's what you're fighting over.

This is a boxing site, not some social commentary site on what it means to be black in america.
Andre Ward is not a black guy for purposes of labeling him as a boxer, he's a 1/2 black guy and 1/2 white guy.
When Irish tried to pigeonhole him into having an advantage by fighting during Black History Month, I just pointed that out.
And then you guys got all butthurt and wanted to smell my farts. Go figure.

 

Says who, YOU? Get the fuck out of here

 

Says genetics.

Btw, you have a foul mouth.

 

Come on now, we all do that.

 

"According to Genetics" amounts to nothing in actual, real life, you fucking imbecile

According to the police, a guy who looks like Andre Ward is "a Black Male"... that's all that matters

 

I ask my girl if she wants to smell it... she laughs and says no and I accuse her of really meaning yes

She said that one time at like three in the morning, she found herself unable to sleep, so she took out the iphone and started playing games on it or whatever and there I was, sound asleep... She said I farted extremely loud and then giggled in my sleep... good times:bears: