DELA vs. COTTO 140, 147...

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  1. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    REED Isn't Sure he's Ever Seen this Mythical Matchup Posted...Who ya Got???...



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  2. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    once again.....delahoya never beat anyone as good as a prime cotto
     
  3. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Oscar at each weight. Cotto would be competitive but i don't think he really has much of an edge anywhere against Hoya. He's probably a better body puncher but i doubt he gets past Oscar's jab enough for it to make a difference.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    De La Hoya Ko's him at both divisions....take him 11-12 rounds at 147 though.
     
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    It's a close fight for a while but I don't like Cotto's punch resistance... Hoya at both weights by stoppage
     
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    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Posednus Maceo Dave KO1 Cotto
     
  7. REEDsART

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  8. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Trinidad, Mosely

    I think dlh vs cotto is very competitive at either weight. I'd slightly lean dlh, but strongly be rooting for Cotto.
     
  9. Hut*Hut

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    Whitaker, Quartey and Trinidad are all better than Cotto, man. And as mikE says, Oscar deserved the Mosley rematch too.
     
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    Quartey's BETTER than Cotto???...Ike Might Very Well BEAT Cotto Head to Head, but was he BETTER???...

    agREED w/the Rest Though...



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    didn't have a better career, but I think Ike Quartey was better at fighting than Miguel Cotto and I'd lay my money down on him to win if we had a time machine
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    Same. Cotto-Quartey would be a good one as well though.
     
  13. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Quartey deserved the decision against Oscar, but there was very little separating them.
    Whitaker, at 147, wasn't in these guys' league. His only quality win was against Chavez, a 140 lber.

    Cotto, like dlh, was an excellent fighter who started losing when he ran into cheating pieces of shit.
     
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    Hmmmm....

    Ever Heard of Buddy McGuirt???...Wilfredo Rivera WASN'T a Slouch Either...



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  15. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    McGirt was a right handed poor man's Whitaker who accomplished not much at 147.
    If you have to rely on Rivera, you are making my point.

    I thought dlh beat him clean and I thought Trinidad whipped Whitaker. Whitaker was overrated at 147.
    I'm not saying he sucked, but he wasn't very close to the lighter, younger, less coked Whitaker.
     
  16. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    You really think Oscar beat Whitaker clearly?
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    He wasn't but the Whitaker that fought Tito was much worse than the one against Oscar"
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I liked Whitaker fine and Oscar might be the fighter I hated most during his career, but yes.
    Whitaker did some negative peck and piss, but I judge by who I'd rather be (in almost all rounds) and DLH was the one landing the stuff that mattered.
     
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    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Probably, but I also think Trinidad was more suited to look good against certain styles and DLH more suited to look good against other styles.
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    While there is certainly truth to that I don't think it quite applies here. Trinidad use of the forearm to prevent Whitaker from holding was a smart tactic and obviously he had more power in his right hand than Oscar. I just don't know how much of a difference those things would have made against a better and more mobile Pernell.
     
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    Whitaker was used-up has-been drug addict when he fought Trinidad
     
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    Whittaker OUTLANDED DeLa that Night, Dude....Check the Punchstats...


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    Oscar beats Miggy at either weight.

    Miggy plain and simple was not in the same league as Oscar/Quartey/Tito/PRIME Shane.
     
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    and by a comfortable margin... threw more punches, landed more punches... had a higher connect rate on those punches... whitaker dictated the tempo... furthermore, DLH loses a point on a knockdown

    I just can't see how Whitaker didn't win the fight

    Hell, even if I thought it feasible for Hoya to "win", the scorecards were outrageous... It was like Whitaker wasn't even there... They gave him like 3 rounds... How can you only win three rounds when you get the other guy to fight YOUR fight, you throw more punches than him, you land more punches than him AND you knock the fellow down???
     
  25. Trplsec

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    Yep, that's why it shocked me ht Mike thought Oscar clearly won.

    Personally I thought it was a boxing master class by Whitaker.
     
  26. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Go back and read the part I wrote that you bolded.

    Now read your response.

    Your response is a non sequitur.
     
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    whiskey Czarcasm

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    I rewatched De La Hoya-Whitaker again last night. Scored it 6 rounds each. If it weren't for that dumbass WBC rule about the cut I would have had Pernell by a point.

    Were the judges corrupt? I have no idea, but I do think they were at the very least influenced by crowd noise in favor of De La Hoya.
     
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    So you are saying that in a fight between two guys where one guy throws and lands more punches, does so at a higher connect rate and knocks the other guy down, you would rather be the other guy?
     
  29. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I'm only responding to point out how stupid you are and how weak your strawmen are. Don't expect me to respond to another stupid post from you in this thread.

    Delahoya hit a lot harder than Whitaker. The knockdown was not from dlh being hurt. Etc.
     
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    So you'd rather be the guy who got hit more and was knocked down:bears:

    You are the dumbest guy on fightbeat... Congrats
     

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