OFFICIAL KLITSCHKO vs POVETKIN thread

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  1. Neil

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    Ill take your word for it.

    wald pussy should steal johnny nelsons nickname
     
  2. Streetfighter

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  3. Irish

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    When the Klitschkos are gone, you will probably have Haye, Fury, Joshua {who just won in a round} and then the new crop out of Eastern Europe, so you might as well go and just invest all your time and energy in basketball or something.
     
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    Pretty much. :bears: Kellerman has his own agenda. He should adopt the Guardian newspaper position, if you can't beat them, leave them. Don't say anything at all. Like any good nightmare, clench your eyes shut and wait for it to pass. At least that way you can avoid writing or saying something that comes back to haunt you down the line.
     
  5. Neil

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    I dont watch heavyweight boxing, period. I dont care about where these bums were born
     
  6. Irish

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    Nothing. Its what you have left.
     
  7. Irish

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    :lol: :lol: I think we should keep the Klitschkos around just to antagonize fuck out of these people.
     
  8. Azazel

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    The only thing entertaining coming out of all of this was Povetkin camp appointing Chisora as their man to inspect Wlad handwraps (unfortunately, the event organiser reject him)

    BTW, in shape Chisora crushes Povetkin.
     
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    I will never complain again if Wald never appears on US TV.
     
  10. broadwayjoe

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    ugh. What a shit fight. Povetkin, to his credit, didn't just mail in his performance. But he was in with a bigger, stronger & more skilled opponent who was allowed to hold and lean on him a ridiculous amount of times. Oh, wait...or was it "Masterful boxing" as the media in Europe would supposedly have us believe?

    And as usual, I find myself having to be pissed at Wlad when he wins a fight by a mile due to his illegal and unnecessary tactics. It seemed to me that Wlad could have gotten Povetkin out of there much earlier, but instead we were "treated" to 12 rounds of slow dancing from Wlad with some punching occasionally mixed in.

    And shame on the ref for letting Wlad do whatever he wanted to before finally taking a point away fwhen it was way too late to make a difference.
     
  11. Irish

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    :lol:

    I heard HBO went into total meltdown {a recurring theme this weekend :laugh11:} so I will be sure to get my hands on a copy of that shit very soon.

    HOLDING!!! HOLDING!!!
     
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    Man, sometimes I think you are even worse than Esk59 (aka watching a fight on "EskVision") when it comes to your own version of what goes on in the ring. You are obviously not a stupid person, so i guess it will have be chalked up to willful blindness.

    Wlad won by a mile, so good for him, for you and for anyone else who is a cheerleader for him. But to pretend that his ridiculously excessive holding is anything but that is a joke.
     
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  13. Irish

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    Wlad's holding, again, is not actually holding. He LEANS on guys. You think this is semantics. Its not.

    I agree, it was pretty turgid stuff, and I called it as such quite early in the fight, even after Wlad had sent Povetkin flying like a skittle in a bowling alley with that hook in the 2nd round. There is simply no need for Wlad to use the lean on. He was so effective with the left hand, especially on the back foot, that he should simply have backed up all night, nailing Povetkin at will. But lets not kid ourselves that he would have gotten any credit for that.

    After the fight, I saw a video, posted it here, from a guy who was babbling manfully about Klitschkos "20, maybe 40 lb weight advantage". 16lbs was the weight advantage, which I am reliably informed was the same as the functional weight advantage carried into the ring by one Vicious Victor Ortiz, vs Mayweather. Of course, he used his 16lb advanage to such great function. :lol:

    After the 5th, Povetkin started boring in, head first, bent at the waist, into Wlads midriff, and then grabbing. It was to avoid the lefts that were breaking him up into shit.

    He was off balance all night, he never once got set to throw shots, something which of course has fuck all to do with holding.

    Most of the knockdowns weren't knockdowns, but Povetkin would have gone down from the shots which precipitated his problems if he hadn't, ironically, grabbed to remain upright.

    Again, I felt it was turgid enough. The overreaction though of the {predictably} Murican and British sectors is hilarious. Wlad beat fuck out of the guy and was light years ahead in all departments, and, as I say, after a certain stage, the holding was down to Povetkin, as he leaned over and bored in trying to avoid the left hooks.
     
  14. Jesus of montreal

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    not just povetkin. In shape chisora crushes wald pussy
     
  15. Irish

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    You will have to stop calling it holding, for one. The only guy who ever had both hands on the other guys lats was Povetkin. Wlad LEANS on guys when they come in. They clinch to stay upright. I hear that Lederman was wailing like a cunt demanding that Povetkin flail away on the inside with his "One free hand". Guess what, the only guy doing that was Wlad, as Povetkin was usually bending over, holding on, waiting for the ref to break them up.

    I was really hoping that with Steward out of the equation, Wlad would go back to a measured version of his younger self. Unfortunately I think that 8 years of being told to lean on people has taken its toll.
     
  16. Irish

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    Yes. Gerber has a right hand like none other.
     
  17. Irish

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    PS the point came off for pushing. In the Haye fight, the point came off for leaning. And that was in the 6th round or so, plenty early to effect the fights course, if, of course, leaning was how Wlad primarily wins his fights.
     
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    If people are reduced to hoping that this boor can get a rise out of a guy they don't like then the sport really is in trouble. Chisora is a useless piece of woman-abusing trash and is a lock to get his clock cleaned anytime he has the considerable misfortune to fight Wlad.
     
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    Bullshit. He holds AND leans...a lot.
     
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    Nope. I am a fan of the truth. When Wlad stops holding, then I will stop saying he does.

    And I'm not all that interested in going back and forth with all night about this since it's not likely you will see reason when it comes to Wlad.. So, I am out. Have fun defending Wlad all night.
     
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  21. Irish

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    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH we want our titles back!!!

    I am not defending the guy "All night".

    He leans on guys and tries to tire them out. I too am a fan of the truth.

    He also throws punches that Roy Jones would do well to replicate, and does not get any credit for it. More truth.

    When he was a young raw offensive machine, fighting known survivors, 25lbs heavier than him, he would run out of gas and lose. For this he was called a quitter.

    When he was not working with HoF trainer Manny Steward, he got blown out by a fast, dangerous but limited banger. Again, he got no credit for his shit-or-bust attitude. More truth.

    When he went to Murica, he went all guns blazing, lost to Brewster. Again, the praise for his fuck-or-walk approach was most forthcoming. Sure.

    Now, he mixes bad with good. And his fights receive balanced, objective reviews. OK. :wack:

    I'd prefer he abandoned the leaning and just went with his left hook, the single best punch in the entire sport right now.

    But he doesn't. He does too much of the leaning and he refuses to fight on the inside. He also hits guys with left hooks that send them spiralling across the ring like a ballerina on speed.
     
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    HOLDING!!! :lol:
     
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    What was the last entertaining bout wald pussy took part in? Seriously
     
  24. Irish

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    Sad, really. "Our dollar is shit and we have no belts so we will make up names".

    All his fights are entertaining. Watching the yanks go apoplectic is always entertaining.


    "BUT WE ARE NUMBER ONE!!!"

    Ok. :wack:

    A fairer question, if you yankee boys still do fair, would be when was the last time he was in a boring fight where he was to blame.
     
  25. Neil

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    Anyone else care to answer the question bitch boy shockingly avoided?
     
  26. Irish

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    Bitch boy. More Murican brilliance. Listen, , I just done plain told you, I find all of them entertaining. Seeing Max Kellerman froth and rage at the inequities of the Old Country is most entertaining.

    I think Wlad has faster hands than Floyd now. Pretty entertaining.
     
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    When Sanders KTFO'd him it was highly entertaining.
     
  28. Irish

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    Why? Only in retrospect. After all, he was being a game bomber back then, letting the hands go, fighting anyone. I remember Jake saying he fell around his sitting room laughing when it happened. I asked him why and he said it was because HBO were hyping Wlad. So, now that we can safely rule out that excuse, I can safely say that that loss was only entertaining in retrospect. Hell yeah.

    Also, nobody ever knocked out Wlad. You are thinking of Lewis, Pacquaio, Khan and other HBO giants who took a ten count in their careers.
     
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  29. Jesus of montreal

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    no wlad quitted 2 times in his career tough
     
  30. Irish

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    He did?? What fights did those tough quits take place in?
     

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