Cotto vs Martinez

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Panchyprsss, Oct 8, 2013.

  1. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

    Martinez name kept being mentioned as the possible next opponent for Miguel Cotto after his victory over Delvin Rodriguez. Cotto stated he indeed dreams of being the first rican to win four titles in four different divisions. Martinez camp responded immediately with a 'Lets do it!' and even went so far to propose a catchweight of 158 lbs with Martinez title in line just to make it more attractive to Cotto. Freddie Roach mentioned he has the right strategy to beat Martinez and believes Cotto can do it.

    Martinez manager met today with Bob Arum to discuss this fight and a clash between Chris John & Yuriorkis Gamboa.

    Thoughts.

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    Last edited: Oct 8, 2013
  2. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    This fight makes the most sense. Cottos camp should push for it immediately. dont wait for a martinez tune up
     
  3. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Makes sense business wise

    Though I'd prefer to see Martinez get stretched cold by GGG
     
  4. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Martinez blows, WAR MIGGLES!
     
  5. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

    I'ma pick my boy Miggles, I reckon he can muster one more great performance and outhustle an old, warbeaten Martinez.
     
  6. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I wouldn't even give Martinez the credit of being shot - he was just never that good. His entire rep is based on managing to string a win over an alcoholic and a one punch KO together.
     
  7. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    Martinez will beat Cotto if there is no catch weight stipulation. Cotto's leagues above Joonya in skill but he won't be able to take the kind of punches he did.
     
  8. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Are people forgetting that Cotto got his ass whupped by Austin Trout? Now suddenly, he blows out an ESPN level fighter like Rodriguez, and he beats Martinez? Even a faded Martinez is a class above Trout. I still pick Martinez to beat Cotto. I think Maravilla can muster ONE last very good performance. Granted, Martinez being so faded is the ONLY reason why Cotto has a chance. The Martinez of 3-4 years ago would beat the ever living Holy shit outta Cotto. Cotto-Canelo is a better option for Cotto. It's a bigger money fight, and Miggy has a better chance of beating the Ging than beating Serg.
     
  9. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    Hut, didn't you previously have Martinez in your signature?
     
  10. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    I'd favour Serg. As Mex said, I think he's got one more big performance in him.
     
  11. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    :bears:
     
  12. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    GGG would annihilate Sergio.
     
  13. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    GGG would say "If he dies, he dies"
     
  14. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Mex didn't say that fool, I did lol.
     
  15. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    in that case it holds less weight with jimmy, considering you ain't been training in combat your entire life
     
  16. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    GGG would most likely destroy the current Martinez, but I am interest to see how he handles Martinez's power. His chin has yet to be really tested. Provided he handles Serg's left hand, he walks him down and batters him.
     
  17. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    Forget Martinez, if a certified chin checka like stevens cant dent the whiskers of golovkin then no one can
     
  18. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Don't think so man. I've had plenty of absolutely shit fighters in my sig over the years but never him :lol:

    I remember saying he was way underrated before the Pavlik fight.....but the pendulum swing way the other way
     
  19. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    That bum might not last as long as Macklin.
     
  20. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Ah shiz niz, so he did :doh:
     
  21. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

    I have to concur with this assessment. I am a Cotto fan and will always root for him, but I think he will be an easier victim for Martinez than a rematch with lazy ass Mexican Chumpez Jr. I'll give him some chance (50%) against Canelo, but Martinez is just too big and too strong for Miguel.
     
  22. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Sergio Martinez UD12 Vito Antuofermo



    REED:mj:
     
  23. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Extremely debatable
     
  24. TKO

    TKO Administrator Staff Member

    Martinez is ripe for the KO. I think Cotto can stop him late on.
     
  25. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    If anybody gets stopped late, it'd be Cotto. Miggy always fades late. Whereas Martinez has shown the ability to turn it up late. Whether or not he still has that ability we'll see.
     
  26. TKO

    TKO Administrator Staff Member

    Martinez is really showing his age in recent bouts. Cotto has a little bit more left in the tank, IMO
     
  27. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    He looked good against Chumpez Jr. And while Chumpez Jr might be a talentless bum, he's a talentless bum with a good chin, who was MUCH larger than Martinez. I don't think Cotto handles those same shots. Trout hurt him for Christ sake. Martinez definitely can do big damage. He blew out DELVIN RODRIGUEZ guys. Only Delvin Rodriguez. Let's not overreact.
     
  28. TKO

    TKO Administrator Staff Member

    :shadow:

    I suppose the size difference (Chavez Jnr) would eventually takes its toll, regardless. I just think Martinez has a lost a step, he didn't look the same fighter V Murray. I guess time will tell.
     
  29. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Cotto looked great but its was against a fighter that wasnt very good. It's hard to access if Cotto indeed is back. I guess we will find out when he fights a top fighter that can fire back. Martinez seems to be declining. Like mentioned if Martinez can muster up one more great performance, Cotto would have his hands full. It will be interesting to see what happens.
     
  30. Panchyprsss

    Panchyprsss Clogg's LORD PROTECTOR

    It will be an entertaining bout, no doubt about it. Only that even a faded Martinez can still stop a battle worn severely damaged Cotto (thanks to Margacheato's loaded bandages).
     

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