Freddie Roach-Alex Ariza scuffle

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Dog Jones, Nov 20, 2013.

  1. Dog Jones

    Dog Jones WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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  2. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    ariza is a born bitchmade and roach has grown into one over the years
     
  3. Haymaker

    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    People symphatize with Roach because of his condition, but he's gradually become an asshole since he started training Manny.
     
  4. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    id say since pacquiao really started getting to be a huge star. i agree though
     
  5. puerto rock

    puerto rock WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Roach in typical fashion triggered that whole deal. He's the one that's really gotten big headed since Manny became a huge star.
     
  6. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Roach was a bit of a cunt there.
     
  7. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    Yeah, I don't want to rip on a guy with Parkinson's, but Roach has really milked it into an undeserved "good guy" image
     
  8. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I think Roach was fair enough. He had work to do, and he had the gym, WTF was Garcia still doing there? Its the week of of a big fight, not a time for niceties. Probably mind games on the part of Garcia to begin with.
     
  9. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    I don't really like Garcia but he was in the right, and he played it pretty cool. There's no need to speak to anybody like that.
     
  10. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    Garcia had the gym until 11, then it was Roach's for 2 hours, both parties knew that. Its well past 11 and he's still swanning around conducting interviews? Get the fuck out the gym! Also, there's a back story to this with Rios and Garcia ripping Roach about his Parkinsons, so the 'professional nice guy' act' is phony, or at least you can understand why Roach would impute that its phony and that the time overrun is a mind game/provocation. If I was Roach I would have handled it exactly the same. Ariza is a POS as well.
     
  11. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    garcia and rios was supposed to have the gym from 9 to 11, but garcia said top rank made them go do a TV spot and they didnt arrive to the gym until 9:20 or 9:30

    and it wasnt roach and pacquiaos gym for 2 hours after that, it was scheduled for them for 5 hours, because its a media thing and obviously pacquiao is the guy the media wants to see and talk with more. not to mention pacquiao wasnt even there yet.
     
  12. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    real classy stuff there. at least garcia seemed calm throughout and rios wasn't involved. i dont understand, why do ariza and roach hate each other again?
     
  13. Anthony

    Anthony Admin Staff Member

    There is nothing classy about Garcia or Rios. And the way Ariza was acting, im sure he was talking shit all throughout that gym before the incident.
     
  14. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I think Roach advised Pac to dump Ariza
     
  15. Haymaker

    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    The thing is Roach didn't had to cut off the interview like that. If he wanted to complain, all he had to do was tell Top Rank. He felt he had the authority to kick them out. I think this had to do more with Ariza than anything else, but he clearly lost his handles this time. Like people said, Manny wasn't even there.
     
  16. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    yea, but what was the reasoning behind that? if i recall correctly, ariza was fired, then re-hired and i forget which fight, but there was serious tension between roach and ariza when roach didn't want him around. might have been the hatton fight, but not sure.
     
  17. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

    Roach should have mounted him, got mount, then mounted him in another way
     
  18. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Pac has said that all this nonsense hasn't and won't affect him come fight night. Respect.
     
  19. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    What else was he going to say?
     
  20. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    'I'm barely sleeping for thinking about this. It's totally thrown off my preparation. If I was Rios I'd be pretty confident right now and if I was a fan I wouldn't buy this because my performance is probably gonna be terrible.'
     
  21. Haymaker

    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    The thing is Roach has many people envious of his position and they all want a piece of Pac's money. Roach has been dealing with sleazy characters like Ariza, Arum and Koncz(?) for a long time.
     
  22. Jimmy

    Jimmy The Greatest of Are Times

    Might have got to other fighters.
     
  23. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    Roach was CLEARLY @ Fault Here...

    As Others have Said, if Manny Pacquiao were Actually There WITH Roach, he'd Have a Legitimate Gripe...It Seems like the Issue @ Hand was 30 Minutes or So, which is NEGLIGIBLE...No Doubt, Both Camps Are Stationed @ THE NICEST Hotel Possible, so if You Need an EXTRA 30 Minutes, Hour, 2 Hours, that's NATHAN...

    Bottom Line, Roach was TRYING to Be a PRICK...

    He Blatantly INTERRUPTED a Live Interview Garcia was Doing & Tried to BULLY Rios's Camp Into Leaving...Manny Pacquiao is NOTORIOUS for Being HOURS LATE to Public Workouts like that, Which Makes this a CLEAR Case of Roach Unnecessarily INSTIGATING a Situation...

    Also, It's Bad Enough Roach is the 1 that Adorned Pac w/the Nickname, "Mexican Assassin", but then he REFERS to the Guy who Stepped to him as a "Mexican Motherfucker", as if that's Some Sort of SLIGHT...Sadly, it was INTENDED to Be a Slight, in Roach's Eye's...

    REED's Been HIP to Roach's CON Act for Many Years...He's Faaaaaaaaaaar from the HUMBLE, Parkinson's Riddled, Former Fighter he PORTRAYS Himself to Be...




    REED:shit:
     
  24. Haymaker

    Haymaker WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    This
     
  25. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    agREED.
     
  26. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    disagREED :scared2:
     
  27. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    you wouldn't last 10 seconds in REED's world
     
  28. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Yep. People had forgotten about that. I remember that. At the time, somebody posted a Tszyu vs Rios thread in MM, and I said "remember that impression that Rios did of Roach? Well he would be doing it for real by the time Tszyu was through with him".

    Whatever else about Roach, kicking a cripple is no good. Roach had the gym and Roach is a former fighter. Ariza is a drug dealer, when you get right down to it. Freddie is an annoyance but lets face it, the only thing Freddie fucks up is his morning cup of coffee. If Freddie stepped to me, I would just walk to the far side of the room and chill for the hour or so it took him to catch up.
     
  29. Hut*Hut

    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

    I don't have a driving license so I gotta give you that one :scared2:
     
  30. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    roach would thrash you
     

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