Stevenson vs Bellew, Kovalev - Sillakh

Exactly what I said after the fight, he has truly effortless power. Doesn't load up, doesn't look like he's putting everything into them - yet look at the results, guys look like they've been hit by a bat.

I just wish he'd exhibited this effortless power on that goggle eyed cunt Kellerdude yesterday.

 

We'll see when the fights get made, but I think you guys are overating Kovalev and underrating Adonis. Stevenson is way more slippery and a better counterpuncher than Kovalev. This could spell disaster for a guy like Kovalev, who's pretty straightforward. He'll have to walk through fire if he wins this fight

 

I thought it was funny on the TV last night the British crew were asking John Conteh how one could deal with Kovalev, and they were couching their question in language, and delivering it with such a tone, as to suggest it was mission impossible. Conteh looked embarrassed, and tried to be polite about the whole thing. :doh:

 

Both have fight ending power, kovalev seems more effortless and skilled but also more basic and predictable than Adonis. Adonis is more athlethic and probably faster but he's wild and very open (although he's fast enough to dodge a lot of punches).

Kovalev seems like the safer bet as he's more skilled and most probably more powerfull but this has the making of a very interesting match-up.

 

Although I'd pick Kovalev, I agree with you, this is far from a foregone conclusion.

 

I think Neil would be elated to see him exhibit his effortless power on Froch.

 

Kov and Stevenson is the CLASSIC case of being fooled into thinking the faster/more athletic guy is automatically more "skilled". Stevenson is quicker, and more athletic than Kov, but he is NOT the more skilled. Actually, HE'S the one who's pretty stiff and basic, as Kov is so calm and fluid that it's pretty scary. UNLESS Stevenson either A. Wacks Kov out early or B. Badly cuts him up, then I think he gets walked down and put to sleep. Of the two scenarios, I think Stevenson has a better chance of cutting Kov, which would be my main concern.

 

Kov vs Stevenson reminds me of Corrales vs Frietas. Kov, just like Chico, is a short, devastating puncher. And just like Kov, Chico had effortless power.

 

Stevenson has high cheekbones too. He could get sliced in there too. It's a close fight, but It reminds me an awful lot of the build up to Tszyu vs Judah, where so Judah's "better performances" had people giving him the nod.

 

Somewhat similar, but a few differences. Zab was only 23 years old, and was being hyped as the next superstar of the sport. Also, a lot of people thought Tszyu was on the decline, which is a big reason why Zab was favored going in.

I'm not so sure if Stevenson would be the betting favorite over Kov. Kov is younger, fresher, and unlike Stevenson, has never been previously KO'd.

 

To me it reminds me more of Martinez vs Chavez Jr with the only difference that when this Chavez Jr (Kovalev) finally hurts his man, it will be over.

 

Pleeeeaaaseee don't insult Kov by comparing him to that bum Junior.

Shit, now that I think about it, I'd pay PPV pricing to watch Kov cave Junior's skull in.

 

Kovalev on starting boxing

"When 11 years old my friend go to gym".

"He say Sergey I go to gym".

"I say, I can go to gym too?".

"He say yes, go to gym".

"I say wow really I go to gym?",

 

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"Hey, still working on that English, hey", said Max, as Kovalev looked at him like he could just kell a man.

 

Ummm, he can. Because he actually did.

 

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From what i've seen of both Stevenson hits even harder than Kovalev, he's scary.

 

Disagree enormously

I think Kovalev is a way bigger hitter, way more heavy-handed

 

No way in Hell Stevenson hits as hard as Kov.

 

Stevenson definitely hits hard and he's fast handed... But he has to put real mustard (copyright Double L, who has vanished) on his shots... Kovalev throws relaxed and just crushes people

 

Dunno, both guys hit freakishly hard

 

I'll punch you in the ​SOUL

 

Stevenson isn't a top 5 puncher that Manny Steward trained, which says a lot about the puncher's Manny trained.

Kov's power is almost Foreman-esque in that it doesn't look like he's putting much on it, and guys just fall flat.

 

BTW - Stevenson was clearly stuttering and nervous in the post-fight interview when Max mentioned Kov.

 

I don't think that how they look has much bearing on the thing, personally. Michael Johnson looked like he wasn't trying to run fast, he was trying as hard as he could.

When stevenson lands clean he fucks guys up, same as kovalev

 

Exactly what I think. His straight left is undeniably hard, but he has to load up a fair bit and follow through, and his legs need to be set.

Kovalev just moves his fists and guys hit the canvas, that's why I think he's a better puncher.

I agree with Xplosive and disagree with JOM about these 2. Adonis is the more basic of the two. He throws that straight left over and over, from the same angle, the same position, and usually without really setting it up. He gets away with it because he has some talent, and the punch is fast, hard, and accurate. But I actually think Kovvles is the more unpredictable of the two, with better punch variety, better feints and setups etc.

They both fought negative opponents yesterday, with Kovalev's opponent being the faster and more talented than Bellew, and yet Kovvles got to him and landed big shots much sooner than Stevenson did.

 

Worrrrd

Stevenson is very quick and has moments of slickness, but he also gets feet caught together, squares himself up on occasion ... his "skill" is speed and audacity more than anything else

 

Yeah, i dont see Stevenson as being very 'skilled' either. Kovalev isn't exactly Roberto Duran either but he's got better balance and punches shorter. Stevenson got that fast left but innit

 

cheers, bruv ... speed can be a bit deceivin', innit

 

Hmm......you are sailing close to the Winds of Bigotry, my main man.