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  1. Anthony

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    So by your standards, Rashad Evans should be ahead of Davis for a belt right? You are making no sense. Gus was not in the top ten when Davis Beat him. Lil nog wasnt in the top ten when Davis beat him. Jackson was just one fight removed from fighting for the Light Heavyweight Title when glover beat him. Then Glover beat the guy who beat him back to back. THE ONLY guy in the top ten Davis beat was Machida and that fight was so damn close many people thought he lost.
     
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    I get the physical comparison, but I can't say Tua remains determined the entire fight...
     
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  3. Trplsec

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    Man, this really isn't that hard to understand. Glover has zero wins against top competition.

    He'll, even Sherdog has Davis ranked ahead of Glover.

    Throw out every historical win you want, but Davis most recently beat former Champion Machida while Glover beat the very average Ryan Bader.

    You do the math. It's not that hard.
     
    Trplsec, Dec 9, 2013
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    Your logic is hard to explain. AGAIN. should Rashad Evans be ranked above Davis? YES or NO.

    And again, Davis BARELY beat Machida. many thought he lost. But beating machida when Davis did, IMO, means little since he prior to that, Machida won a bullshit decison against hendo and beat "the very average bader" and lost to Jon Jones.

    By your logic, Since Glover Beat Jackson, who beat machida, Glover should be #1.

    I can poke so many holes in your theory, it looks like swiss cheese.
     
    Anthony, Dec 9, 2013
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  5. Trplsec

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    You are trying to poke holes and use spin logic but it honestly just comes down to one question that you can't answer.

    What top 10 opponent has Glover beaten to earn a title shot?

    I've listed 3 guys currently in the top 10 that Davis beat.

    Now just give me one for Glover. Don't try to spin or minimize the wins by Davis, just give me the name of the guy Glover beat that's currently in the top 10.

    I'll be waiting.
     
    Trplsec, Dec 9, 2013
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  6. Anthony

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    No, you didnt list 3 guys in the top ten davis beat. Because again, Gus and lil nog were not in the top ten when Davis Beat them. Are you telling me Gus was in the top ten in 2010? Get the fuck out of here dude.

    And again, SHOULD RASHAD EVANS BE RANKED HIGHER THAN PHIL DAVIS?
    SHOULD RASHAD EVANS BE RANKED HIGHER THAN PHIL DAVIS?
    SHOULD RASHAD EVANS BE RANKED HIGHER THAN PHIL DAVIS?
    SHOULD RASHAD EVANS BE RANKED HIGHER THAN PHIL DAVIS?
    SHOULD RASHAD EVANS BE RANKED HIGHER THAN PHIL DAVIS?
    SHOULD RASHAD EVANS BE RANKED HIGHER THAN PHIL DAVIS?
    SHOULD RASHAD EVANS BE RANKED HIGHER THAN PHIL DAVIS?


    BTW, When Glover beat Rampage, who beat machida, RAMPAGE WAS IN THE TOP TEN.
     
    Anthony, Dec 9, 2013
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    Jon Jones wasnt even the Champ when Davis Beat Gus. A year later he became champ, but you want to use that win as some kind of reasoning for Davis Getting a shot a Jon Jones. LMAO.
     
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    Rampage Jackson who beat Lyoto Machida.
     
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  9. Trplsec

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    If Rampage was still in someone's Top 10 after losing to Ryan Bader, then I'll concede this one on shear ridiculousness.
     
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  10. Trplsec

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    And why do you keep asking about Rashad being ranked over Davis?

    The question was about a more deserving challenger for Jones THAT he hasn't already faced.
     
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    OH OKAY. So you are claiming Gus as a win for Davis against a top ten fighter, despite Gus not being a top ten fighter in 2010. But you wont count Glover's win over rampage later in 2010 when he was a top ten fighter? Again, your logic makes no damn sense.

    And again, RAMPAGE BEAT MACHIDA
     
    Anthony, Dec 9, 2013
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    I am asking a new question. Should Rashad be ranked higher than Phil Davis?
     
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  13. Trplsec

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    Ummm, Glover beat Jackson in January of THIS year not late 2010. If anyone had Jackson as a top 10 LH this year, they shouldn't be allowed to type.

    And yes, in my opinion, submitting Gustaffson in 2010 is a better win than beating today's Rampage Jackson.

    I already said I will concede this one. It's just a difference of opinions on meaningful wins.
     
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  14. Trplsec

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    Absolutely.

    Sherdog says

    1)Jones
    2) Gustaffson
    3) Evans
    4) Davis

    I don't see any dispute in that.
     
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    Like i said before, You should be more bothered by Gus not getting the immediate title shot especially since GSP "OWES" it to Hendricks and the fans. And while they are having their rematch, Glover and Davis Should fight.
     
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  16. Trplsec

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    I would prefer an immediate rematch with Gustaffson while Glover fights a legit opponent.

    But that wasn't really the discussion.
     
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    I think Glover has done more than enough to earn his title fight. Glover has consistently won his fights, where Davis is inconsistent. And lets be clear. Jones will FUCK davis up easily. Davis is the most timid fighter in the 205 division.
     
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  18. Trplsec

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    Glover has consistently won against mid level opposition.

    Hell, Texeira was in a pitched battle with Fabio Maldanado a year ago.

    Consistently winning against shitty competition doesn't make you worthy of a title shot, it makes you Butterbean.

    And honestly Jones easily destroys Glover as well.
     
    Trplsec, Dec 9, 2013
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    So which is it. Is it Mid level competition or Shitty competition?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Bigfoot fails his post fight drug test.

    "Silva is on a medically approved regimen of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), and had been in compliance with therapeutic guidelines on all pre-fight tests performed prior to the event. The results of his test on the day of the event indicated a level of testosterone outside of allowable limit. Silva has been informed that the elevated testosterone level is a violation of the UFC Fighter Conduct Policy and his Promotional Agreement with Zuffa."

    http://www.mmamania.com/2013/12/17/...uspended-nine-months-forfeits-bonus-mark-hunt

    TFK
     
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  22. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Gosh, I wasn't aware Bigfoot was ill and undergoing therapy. I wish him all the best as he struggles with hypogonadism.

    More and more athletes are being stricken by this horrid affliction. There should be a telethon or something.
     
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    You should be tested for elevated sarcasm.
     
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    SilentNight Undisputed Champion

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    Bigfoot is actually in the rare 1 percent of fighters that actually needs to use testosterone and it has nothing to do with his career.

    Even if he was a regular person he would still need it because his acromegaly disease can be potentially life shortening.


    And unlike Chael and the other cheats Bigfoot is quite obviously afflicted.
     
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    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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  26. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage

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    Bullshit. This is a guy that was previously popped for using fucking Boldenone and tried to blame it on his treatment for acromegaly. It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now.
     
    Trplsec, Dec 19, 2013
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    SilentNight Undisputed Champion

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    He has low testosterone and thus used testosterone boosters.
     
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    TRP thinks if you have low T you shouldnt be fighting anymore.
     
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    Oh just let everyone take whatever they want, just like they did in Pride. These guys are fighting in a cage, not running for the President.
     
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  30. Trplsec

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    Yep,

    But I also don't think anyone should take Boldenone, an equestrian steroid. But, hey, call me crazy.
     
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