Thurman vs Maidana

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  1. Xplosive

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    Perhaps the most explosive fight to be made at welter. I see Thurman knocking Chino out though, even though he'll prob get hurt along the way. Unlike Broner, Thurman has REAL firepower, and I also think Thurman has a higher ring IQ than Broner does. I think Thurman clocks Maidana in about 7 rounds it what would be one HELLUVA fight while it lasts.
     
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    Thurman is clearly better than Broner, yeah I think he's good enough to beat Maidana. Would be a fun fight for sure.
     
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    Thurman would beat the fuck out of Maidana.

    he's got the power to keep Maidana off him and more importantly make him stop coming forward.

    Thurman looks like a guy who could eventually fight up at 160. Maidana is pretty much at his max weight class at the moment.
     
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    Musze, I dunno bout that bro. Thurman is only 5'7. I don't think he's big enough to ever be a middleweight. He could be successful at 154 though. For record, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Thurman knock out Canelo.
     
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    Thurman is not hard to find, he should be favored but Chino is a live underdog.
     
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    thurman looks like he can get hurt. he will have a size advantage though. he looks like a full fledged middleweight
     
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    He doesn't even look close to a middleweight, he looks like a welterweight at best. You realise he is only 5'7 right? He's not even as big as Canelo.
     
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    You do realised that the listed height of boxers is rarely accurate ?
     
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    Indeed I do, it's usually exaggerated,
     
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    No, it's as often lessened, so it can trick the opponent in thinking he's fighting a midget
     
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    Before the Broner fight started, I said that win or lose I'd love to see Thurman vs Maidana. I said that as a Maidana fan. He'd beat the fuck out Thurman. Not sure what you guys see in Thurman to think otherwise and don't really care. I'll be here for bets when and if the fight is made.
     
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    Maidana is STILL the guy was getting stunned and touched up by bum ass Whosesito. Let's not overrate him based on last night. Thurman hits so much harder than Broner that its not even funny. Shit, not only harder, but Thurman's hook is faster than any punch Broner throws.
     
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    Oh and for the record, if it was Broner vs Thurman last night, they woulda needed a stretcher for Adrien. Thurman would obliterate Broner.
     
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    That's very rare. Only a few British fighters and Paul Williams have underplayed height.

    Soto Karass looks his listed 5'9.5, and Thurman looked exactly 2 inches shorter. He is 5'7.5. He is not a big welter.

    To be fair I thought he looked pretty big once too, but that's when I assumed he was about 5'10, as he doesn't look short. When you see him next to other fighters you realise he is much shorter than he looks.
     
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    Here is Thurman next to Soto Karass. What a monster! One of the biggest welters I've ever seen, he could probably be a sucessful cruiserweight like Guillermo Jones.

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    Thurman has a big frame for a welter despite his height. Because of that, I think he'd do well at 154. I think he'd knock out Kirkland, and I'd pick him to upset Canelo. 160 is a no no for him though. But between 147-154, I'm comfortable saying Thurman is the biggest puncher in those divisions.
     
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    How does he have a big frame when he is 5'7 with a 69 inch reach? :laugh11:

    Some of you guys are nuts. He has a small frame, just like Canelo. Even Floyd has a bigger frame, wider shoulders and longer arms. He could probably do OK at 154 mainly because of his good speed and power.

    An example of a guy who is on the short side for his weight class but had a BIG frame, and didn't look small at all, is Hagler. He is only like 5'9 but wide, with really long arms. So much so that he didn't look undersized against anyone he fought.
     
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    Height & wing span might be the most important measures in boxing terms but a guy can have a huge frame and be both short and have short arms.
     
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    Though, I don't really see that Thurman does..... what does he weigh in the ring?
     
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    By being exceptionally wide? Frame is essentially height*width. Thurman has neither really, he's just a fairly solid, well muscled 5'7 guy.
     
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    I'd like to know that too.
     
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    As stupid as it sounds the thickness of the bones is a huge factor, that basically determines how much muscle a person's inclined to carry. Just looking at height and wing span DLH has a bigger frame than Tyson but I bet Tyson's wrists (where there's basically no muscle) are like 2" thicker just from the size of his bones
     
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    Yeah I think that's why Canelo is deceptively heavy, despite having a pretty small frame. Big, thick bones. Fat little legs too of course.
     
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    Canelo might be thicker than Thurman, but to be quite honest, I don't consider Canelo an exceptionally strong guy. Its not even his style to be physically imposing. If Canelo were to fight Thurman, I think he'd have to wack Keith out early. If not, I think Thurman would figure him, an id Canelo is NOT that hard to figure out. Thurman has much better stamina than Canelo, and better natural power. I think eventually he'd walk a tiring Canelo into a hook that flattens him. Thurman I suspect is better than many think. Not saying he's Hearns or anything, but I think he's got more talent and substance than Crapnelo.
     
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    I think in my mind the David Haye clone would KO Maidana
     
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    maidana is a hot and cold fighter. he almost lost to an old chop chop and morales probably because he wasn't well prepared. he got blanked by alexander. he's a beatable guy, but at the same time at his best he undressed highly touted guys like ortiz and broner. i think the thurman fight is a toss up based on what i've mentioned and because thurman is still unproven.
     
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    He did look sluggish against Morales, but I think Alexander the Fake was just a bad matchup for him. That's the ONLY fight of Alexander's career that he boxed pretty impressively.

    Maidana just seemed all wrong for Broner, but in regards to the Ortiz fight, that's a fight Vic woulda won if he didn't have a vagina.

    I see no DOG in Thurman. But what I like most about Thurman (besides his explosive power), is that he's actually a pretty good thinker in the ring. Makes nice little adjustments, and knows WHERE and WHEN to place his power shots. He has a good ring IQ, which is something that Broner's proven in his last 2 fights that he lacks.
     
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    Thurman impressed me a lot with his arsenal of power shots....his chin seems solid as well...he can box as well when he needs it......unless he gets caught cold in the beginning I see him blasting chino out of there
     
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    Tis de choof though. De word de wind take it. Tyson 5'10, 71" wing span; DLH 5'10 73" wing span. Tyson has a much, MUCH (much!) bigger 'frame'. If Mike was a paleolithic skeleton that archaelogists found they'd be able to tell he was enormous from the circumferance of his bones, the size of his skull etc.
     

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