Cain Valasquez vs Wlad Klitschko

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  1. BOSS

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    MMA rules obviously. Who do you have? I actually think Wlad KO's him in like 15 seconds. Maybe I'm crazy but I think Wlad's size/reach along with timing is good enough to catch Cain coming in and Ko'ing him. I mean if JDS can do it with one sloppy awkward drunken looping overhead right, then Wlad would kill him with a shot, hell even a grazing shot would probably KO Cain (4oz and all). Obviously if this goes down to the mat, Cain demolishes him. I don't think Cain would pull a Randy Couture and dive for the ankles, I think Cain is too macho, and too much of that Mexican pride would cost him. Hell I think even a Wlad left jab could take him out. This all of course, if Wlad comes in confident, if he's scared to be in the cage, his whole game will be thrown off and Cain will just take him down and that's that. (BTW Cain demolishes Tyson Fury, that's a different story) So anyway to conclude give me Wlad KO 1 (15 seconds), devestating right cross on a Cain charging in (Cain legs a single leg kick though @ around 9 second mark) What do you think?
     
  2. SilentNight

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    Wlad loses terribly.
     
  3. TFK

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    This should be in the Mythical Matchups forum with all the other fights that will never happen.

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    Elaborate.
     
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    because all Cain has to do is the start the fight on his knees and crawl to Wlad. any power has in his punches will be diminished from that angle. Cain crabs the leg and takes him down, Done and done.
     
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    It Would Resemble Randy Couture vs. James Toney, Only Wlad Would Get Taken Down even EASIER...Unlike Couture, Cain WOULDN'T Go for Any Chokes or Submissions...He'd GNP the Living Shit Out of Wlad, Who Would Likely Be in FULL PANIC Mode, the Instant Cain Got Top Position...

    If Wlad's Corner Didn't STOP the Fight, he'd Bleed WORSE than Bigfoot Did...



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    In a BOXING Match, Yes, Wlad Makes Short Work of Cain...




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    even if they were to fight standing up, cain could have success clinching klitschko against the cage and punishing him w/ knees to the thigh before taking him down for the finish. if he goes in there like he did in the first JDS fight though, he's obviously susceptible to get clocked and KOed.

    at the end of the day, it's a different sport. i think wrestlers and high profile grapplers stand a better chance at beating a high level mma guy in their pro debut.
     
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    You guys seriously think Wlad can't land as much as a power jab before Cain gets him down ? Gtfo
     
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    The way Wald clinched in his last fight, he might have been working on his Greco-Roman wrestling skills.
     
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    He theoretically could land a power jab right before being TKO'd. Sure.
     
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    A power jab from Wlad in 4oz gloves could KO Cain, it would at least stun him and disrupt his attempted takedown. Especially since he would proably walk/dive/run into it thus multiplying its force. I don't like Wlad at all, don't get it twisted, all I am saying is that Cain is chinny and Wlad could very well land a big shot as Cain tries to close the distance.
     
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    Sure he could.

    Wlad is basically the Terminator.

    His right hand could KO deities.
     
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    Yes, because Wlad has a history of knocking out fighters with nothing but a single power jab.

    Oh wait....I forgot....all MMA fighters have glass jaws that can't withstand the punching power of every boxer ever.


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    These are BOXERS man.


    They could kill the average MMA fighter with one blow!

    Their unbelievable punching technique is like nothing seen before on this planet. No one can hit as hard as a boxer.


    All these huge athletic guys that seem to have power? NOTHING compared to the sheer concussive FORCE of a pugilist. Nevermind that these men are trained by world class boxing coaches and often Olympic athletes, the INCREDIBLE NUANCE of throwing a hard punch is lost without years of training at the earliest of ages of adolescence(except if you are Klitschko and started out as a kickboxer)...these karate men, kung fu men and K1 boxers simply can't compare.



    Wlad is a MACHINE of TERROR and DESTRUCTION and his powers are only slightly limited by large gloves and a ring.

    In a cage it would only take mere seconds for him to knock out world champions with one blow.

    Choof.
     
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    i still pick cain, but wlad has more chance of winning in the cage than cain does in a boxing match.
     
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    Cain WOULDN'T Attempt to BUMRUSH Wlad...He'd Be STRATEGIC about it...Wlad's Length Would Actually Be his WORST Asset in a Cage, Unless he Magically Developed TAKEDOWN Defense Overnight...Yes, Wlad has a Puncher's Chance, but Cain Would Stay CROUCHED & Be Smart about WHEN to Engage Wlad...
     
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    Forget Wlad then. Do u see any heavyweight in history (with say 2 months only mma training) catching and ko'ing Cain ?
     
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    REED Thinks a SHORTER, HARD Punching Guy would have a Chance...Tyson/Marciano Types w/2 Months Training...If they Can @ Least Learn to SPRAWL, they'd have a (SLIM) Chance...Wlad's Tooooooooooo Looooooooooooong Though...Tooo Much of him to GRAB...
     
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    Of course man. Ali was a fucking amazing athlete.
     
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    i don't really understand this topic. i guess wlad stands a chance, but cain would obviously be favored. who would win in a wrestling match? jordan burroughs vs. anderson silva?
     
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    UGH Joony do I have to post this as an extremely complex math problem so you will get it easily ? It's pretty simple..all I am saying is a guy like Wlad (As crap as division is he is an EXTREMELY high level boxer) has the timing, the power, and the skill to catch Cain with shots before the takedown happens. Forget Toney and Couture. Toney is fat and stupid. Wlad has the size and reach to get to Cain before Cain closes in. OBVIOUSLY Cain dominates this if it goes to the crowd, you guys should really leave the obvious to the Captain, as well as pointing out that Wlad beats Cain in a boxing match (DfuckingUH). It all comes down to you answering this simple question.

    DO YOU THINK WLAD CAN LAND PUNCHES ON CAIN BEFORE THIS GOES DOWN TO THE MAT ? (Because If he can I do believe the fight is over)
     
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    How many boxers has Wlad KO'd with the first punches he landed?


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  24. whiskey

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    Of course it's possible but highly unlikely. Wlad would stand a better chance of knocking out Cain in a street fight where his reach, power and the nature of those kinds of fights ending quickly.

    In MMA Velasquez would be fully prepared and also competing in a large area with a soft surface. He could just circle Klitschko staying out of range until he found the right opportunity to shoot.
     

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