IT'S TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Weidman/Silva 2 Discussion

There are SURFACE Similarities, but Also Glaring Omissions...Where's the Self Face Slaps, the Waving of Weidman to "Come On", the DISMISSIVE Utterances & Hand Gestures???...You Know, the CLOWNING???...

You've Posted Footage of Silva STRATEGICALLY Fighting w/his Hands Low...Of Silva Being FULLY AWARE of Where EVERY Shot was Coming From...

Against Weidman, Silva was CLOWNING; to the Degree that he LOST SIGHT of Weidman's Shots, Leaned Back, Got GRAZED on the Chin & STILL Kept his Hands Down...THEN, he Leaned Back Even Fuuuuuuurther & Got Hit w/the Shot that RIGHTFULLY Dropped Him, Yet ANOTHER that he NEVER Saw Coming...



REED:hammert:

 

the fact is that silva was KOed standing and that was the least expected result. if this was a few years ago, i'd give silva a much better chance and would probably pick him to reclaim his title, but as much as i'd like to see that happen, i see him losing one way the other. i'd love to see him win though to set up a third fight.

 

Which Takes this Debate BACK to Square 1 & REED's Point that Silva Categorically DOES NOT "Fight Like That" ALL the Time...He Simply DOESN'T...

You Posted Gif's of Silva STRATEGICALLY Fighting w/his Hands Down & Actually ATTACKING Out of the Posture...Also, There was NO Playfulness about it, NO Clowning...

There's a SURFACE Similarity in the Franklin Move you Posted, but 1 of the MAJOR Differences is, Silva NEVER Lost Sight of the Incoming & RETURNED FIRE After Leaning Back...Against Weidman, Not Only Did Silva FAIL to Return Fire After Leaning Back, he LOST SIGHT of the Incoming as he Leaned Back, was GRAZED by a Shot, CONTINUED TO LEAN BACK & Got Dropped...

Again, there's a SURFACE Similarity in the Franklin Gif, but QUITE a Bit of Difference, Actually...



REED:kidcool:

 

Hows the rest of the card, mma fans

 

From what I saw silva was gettin beat handily prior to the ko and wasnt gettin much done. give me Weidman in the rematch

 

Rousey-Tate II...

 

Yeah, I'm honestly shocked that the UFC put this and Silva-Weidman on the same card. They could have built a mediocre card around a Rousey-Tate II main event and still sold 400K PPVs.

As it is, I think 750-800k buys is a fair target for this weekend's card.

 

That just hurts dude.

 

REED Can't Wait...Mrs. REED had Been Hinting @ a SATURDAY Date Night, but REED Made it CLEAR it Wouldn't Be a Good Idea, Unless She was Prepared to Watch a UFC PPV All Night...

 

If Tate Makes this Fight a BOXING Match, She Can Win...In & Out Flurries & Side to Side Footwork Can Get the Job Done...EMOTIONALLY, the Tables have Turned & Ronda May Get CARELESS in her Zest to Finish Tate Again...The Thing is, Ronda's ALOT STRONGER than Meisha, so Tate's Gotta AVOID Clinches & the Ground, Obviously...Her Only REAL Chance of Winning is to Keep the Fight STANDING & Outbox Ronda...

 

I re-watched the first fight this weekend and it really didn't help improve any hopes for Tate.

The problem is that there really isn't a "puncher's chance" in women's MMA. You rarely see chicks knocked out or even seriously hurt with single shots. Even a beast like Cyborg doesn't have a resume with one-punch knockouts.

Unless Tate can mimic Ali as you mentioned above, ultimately it becomes a grappling match. And as good as Tate's wrestling might be, she isn't strong enough to control Ronda in a grappling match.

In the first fight Ronda was reckless and gave up her back twice, but Tate wasn't near strong enough to control her. I'm not sure anyone at 135 is strong enough.

The part that can't be overlooked from the first fight is that Rousey had Tate mounted twice and could have simply ended the fight with unanswered strikes but chose to attempt the armbars.

 

Rousey vs Tate is a synergy fight, not a standalone, carry the event fight.

It is a mismatch. We all know it. We're all looking forward to it anyway because they are both hot, they've sold the fight well, and if Tate lucks out it will be very memorable.

However, I would never pay for it alone with a junk support card, it just works perfect as a sidekick to an excellent matchup like Weidman Silva 2 or something like that.

Rousey vs Cyborg could carry a card alone, but that's about it right now for women's mma.

 

Rousey-Carmouche did 450k buys without any of the drama or hype or TUF build up of Rousey-Tate.

I didn't say it would be worthy of being a stand-alone main event but it would sell. I know it's hard to imagine but Rousey is probably one of the top 3 or 4 draws in the UFC right now.

 

Chris Weidman and Anderson Silva will have a rematch on Saturday, December 28th.

 

Can we keep this retarded alias out of the MMA forum?

TFK

 

Rousey should beat Tate fairly easily, and I expect Browne to beat Barnett. I'm not even gonna make a prediction for the main event, I'm just gonna enjoy the fight. To me, it can go either way. Silva could be like Lennox Lewis in the Oliver McCall rematch, embarrassing a fighter he should've beaten the first time, or he could be like Roy Jones in the Tarver rematch (I know RJJ won the 1st fight), and never be the same fighter again.

I'm hosting a poker tournament at my house, so there will be a house full of people going crazy for the fights.

TFK

 

If Browne beats Barnett, I'll change my screen name to "Tom Brady" for a month.

 

I don't think Browne is anywhere near elite, but he should beat Barnett. Barnett hasn't had a decent win against a relevant fighter since 2006. When he finally face a good fighter in Cormier, he got his ass beat. I don't think Browne is as good as Cormier, but he should be good enough to beat Barnett.

TFK

 

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Travis-Browne-16785


Out of those listed, the most impressive wins are over Overeem, Gonzaga and Struve, all of which are much better wins than anyone on Barnett's resume since 2006.

TFK

 

My distain for Barnett is well-documented, but it is impossible to deny that the guy is skilled.

Barnett has a great chin and a top level grappling game. So it's just difficult for me to envision a scenario in which Browne wins.

And the Cormier loss is meaningless when looking at the Browne fight. Cormier is a quick-footed fighter with world class wrestling. Browne is neither of those.

I see a quick clinch; a Barnett takedown; some smothering top control; and finally a submission.

 

Why not ask yourself the same thing about Nandor Guelimo, Brett Rogers and Siali-Mou Siliga?

And Mir is done. Bringing him up is silly.


TFK

 

Chuck Liddell and Randy Couture beat top level competition their career too. That means nothing if they were fighting today.

TFK

 

:Rubio:

strictly serious cage fight discussion allowed here, folks.